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Seems its not going to end soon..

Nimos

Well-Known Member
The US and UK are banning Russian oil and the EU is ending its reliance on Russian gas, stepping up the economic response to the invasion of Ukraine.

US President Joe Biden said the move targeted "the main artery of Russia's economy".

Energy exports are a vital source of revenue for Russia but the move is also likely to impact Western consumers.

Major brands have meanwhile continued to pull out of Russia, with McDonald's and Coca-Cola the latest to leave.

Russia's economy is heavily dependent on energy. It is the world's third-biggest oil producer, behind Saudi Arabia and the US.

Before the measures were announced, Russia warned of "catastrophic" consequences for the global economy and said it might close its main gas pipeline to Germany.

The conflict has sent petrol prices to record highs in the US and the UK.


Its just burgers and sodas, but these are very visible brands, one would wonder whether more Russians ain't going to wonder what exactly is going on here, besides what the Russian media is telling them. Seriously, if Russia were doing a liberation operation, the Russian people must think that the rest of the world have gone completely crazy. :)

They can be that naive, its almost terrifying to witness the effect of propaganda. No wonder, Hitler manage to convinced the Germans or how other dictators manage to get away with it.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I'm sure Putin will tell the people he kicked out these businesses for fake reasons, like fraud or spoiled food or whatever. From what I hear reported about 60% of Russians are devoted state news watchers, much like their FOX news. Those folks might not notice the missing media or Levis or McDonalds. But as inflation hits everyone and there is less available to buy there is going to be a lot of citizens asking questions.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
one would wonder whether more Russians ain't going to wonder what exactly is going on here, besides what the Russian media is telling them.
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They can be that naive, its almost terrifying to witness the effect of propaganda
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I wonder whether more Americans aren't going to wonder what exactly is going on here, besides what the American media is telling them.
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They can be that naive, its almost terrifying to witness the effect of propaganda
 
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Nimos

Well-Known Member
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I wonder whether more Americans ain't going to wonder what exactly is going on here, besides what the American media is telling them.
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They can be that naive, its almost terrifying to witness the effect of propaganda
So you believe that all western media are just making this up? That Russia is indeed there to liberate Ukraine, that EU and the US are supporting Neo-Nazis?
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
The US and UK are banning Russian oil and the EU is ending its reliance on Russian gas, stepping up the economic response to the invasion of Ukraine.
They don't step up just the economic response

Americans better watch reality as being explained below...he perfectly explains how America is also responsible for a war over there, AND they do it on purpose, knowing that 1 billion people might die according to a war simulation done by the experts in America

This conspiracy I heard a few years ago seems being implemented by the USA as we speak it seems. Nuclear war in Europe to kill 1 billion people in Europe++.

I understand why they do this (1st 10 min explains a lot)
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
So you believe that all western media are just making this up? That Russia is indeed there to liberate Ukraine, that EU and the US are supporting Neo-Nazis?
No, video in previous post clearly explains what I meant. Americans miss the bigger picture, Tucker Carlson ++ excepted
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
From what I hear reported about 60% of Russians are devoted state news watchers, much like their FOX news.
If that is true it still leaves a lot of people in Russia who either know what is going on, or are going to wonder why Facebook and YouTube are suddenly shutdown.

They just arrested 14000 anti-war protests in Russia. Kind of hard to hide this stuff in 2022.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
If that is true it still leaves a lot of people in Russia who either know what is going on, or are going to wonder why Facebook and YouTube are suddenly shutdown.

They just arrested 14000 anti-war protests in Russia. Kind of hard to hide this stuff in 2022.
Putin made it illegal for news about the war to be published and broadcastMany media just shut down. He will find it impossible to keep news from filtering in, mostly via phones and then shared. He would have to close the entire communication network to do that. This isn't the Soviet Union with land lines any more. I haven't seen any journalists in Russia any more so I wonder if they are leaving. They were reporting on protests, too.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
They don't step up just the economic response

Americans better watch reality as being explained below...he perfectly explains how America is also responsible for a war over there, AND they do it on purpose, knowing that 1 billion people might die according to a war simulation done by the experts in America

This conspiracy I heard a few years ago seems being implemented by the USA as we speak it seems. Nuclear war in Europe to kill 1 billion people in Europe++.

I understand why they do this (1st 10 min explains a lot)
Anything with Tucker Carlson is on my don't watch -- EVER -- list. Lies almost as much as Trump.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
They don't step up just the economic response

Americans better watch reality as being explained below...he perfectly explains how America is also responsible for a war over there, AND they do it on purpose, knowing that 1 billion people might die according to a war simulation done by the experts in America

This conspiracy I heard a few years ago seems being implemented by the USA as we speak it seems. Nuclear war in Europe to kill 1 billion people in Europe++.

I understand why they do this (1st 10 min explains a lot)
There is a lot here, there is no doubt that the US government is not at its best, I don't argue against that. But to say that the goal is a nuclear war in Europe is ridiculous, even if that were their plan, a nuclear war would never be confined to Europe, the first target would be the US and most likely EU at the same time, were Russia to launch missiles.

The stuff about the planes:
The Pentagon on Tuesday evening dismissed Poland's proposal floated hours earlier to transfer its MiG-29 fighter jets to the United States for delivery to Ukraine.

So that weren't true.

Then the stuff about that Miss universe, that is not true either..

The confusion started after Lenna shared the image on her Instagram page on Feb. 22 with the hashtags #standwithukraine and #handsoffukraine. Although Lenna never said she joined the Ukrainian military, she did re-share posts from others commending her for "putting down her crown and sash to defend her country."

Lenna later clarified in a follow-up Instagram post on Feb. 28 that she did not join the military. She said the image was meant to inspire people.


There is to much nonsense in all these conspiracies.. that you have to dig through each and every claim to figure out what is true and what is not.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
There is a lot here, there is no doubt that the US government is not at its best, I don't argue against that
You phrased it quite optimistic

But to say that the goal is a nuclear war in Europe is ridiculous, even if that were their plan, a nuclear war would never be confined to Europe, the first target would be the US and most likely EU at the same time, were Russia to launch missiles.
Some details might be off, but I think the bigger picture is not

Aha, you solved that math problem. I thought "how 1 billion death nuking Europe, there are just 750 million". Adding 300 million in USA does make it roughly a billion and more fair, so the simulation of 2019 might have its numbers correct

The stuff about the planes:
The Pentagon on Tuesday evening dismissed Poland's proposal floated hours earlier to transfer its MiG-29 fighter jets to the United States for delivery to Ukraine
Tomayto tomahto imo. They have driven Putin in this direction for many years by their attitude, this might as well be their way to veil the original cause as explained in the 1st 4 minutes
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
They don't step up just the economic response

Americans better watch reality as being explained below...he perfectly explains how America is also responsible for a war over there, AND they do it on purpose, knowing that 1 billion people might die according to a war simulation done by the experts in America

This conspiracy I heard a few years ago seems being implemented by the USA as we speak it seems. Nuclear war in Europe to kill 1 billion people in Europe++.

I understand why they do this (1st 10 min explains a lot)
I would never trust a word coming from that man.....
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I would never trust a word coming from that man.....
Not 1 word of him you can trust?

I heard him say many things that I trust
Probably also many I don't trust
Those I just put aside

He did have a Dutch woman in his show lately, and I like this woman, agree with her on quite a few things, and Tucker did too, so Tucker is not all bad (at all)

For sure I really like his American way of speaking, not monotonous at all, the opposite, articulates very well, I don't hear that a lot
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Not 1 word of him you can trust?

I heard him say many things that I trust
Probably also many I don't trust
Those I just put aside

He did have a Dutch woman in his show lately, and I like this woman, agree with her on quite a few things, and Tucker did too, so Tucker is not all bad (at all)
My comment is my personal view of Tucker and Fox news
 
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