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Seems its not going to end soon..

Father Heathen

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They don't step up just the economic response

Americans better watch reality as being explained below...he perfectly explains how America is also responsible for a war over there, AND they do it on purpose, knowing that 1 billion people might die according to a war simulation done by the experts in America

This conspiracy I heard a few years ago seems being implemented by the USA as we speak it seems. Nuclear war in Europe to kill 1 billion people in Europe++.

I understand why they do this (1st 10 min explains a lot)
Trash source.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
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I wonder whether more Americans aren't going to wonder what exactly is going on here, besides what the American media is telling them.
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They can be that naive, its almost terrifying to witness the effect of propaganda

This is why we have a plethora of news sources (not merely State run) to pull from, in which you can piece together a cogent picture, if one has the critical thinking skills to skim through the detritus.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
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I wonder whether more Americans aren't going to wonder what exactly is going on here, besides what the American media is telling them.
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They can be that naive, its almost terrifying to witness the effect of propaganda
Here, every news from the war zones and some from Russia are followed by the disclaimer "this news can't be confirmed by independent sources".
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
This is why we have a plethora of news sources (not merely State run) to pull from, in which you can piece together a cogent picture, if one has the critical thinking skills to skim through the detritus.


That’s the ideal, with a free and largely unregulated press. But in reality, it always pays to ask who owns this “free” media, and whose interests they serve? It’s seldom yours or mine, wherever you look; there are, of course, reputable sources, but their voices are frequently drowned out by the shrill cries of the blatantly dishonest.

As for Russia and Ukraine; I suspect we in the West have access to something close to factual accuracy much of the time - and I thank honest and courageous journalists working under difficult circumstances in Ukraine and Russia for that - but the tone of the narrative, the way the story is packaged, has a huge impact on how we collectively receive and process the information. Compare and contrast, for instance, the coverage of this invasion vs the invasion of Iraq 20 years ago. Are Iraqi civilians cowering in bunkers, for example, somehow qualitively different from Ukrainian civilians cowering in bunkers? Were their lives worth less?
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Here, every news from the war zones and some from Russia are followed by the disclaimer "this news can't be confirmed by independent sources".
That's good...Germany is known in Holland for their "Deutsche Grundlichkeit"
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
That's good...Germany is known in Holland for their "Deutsche Grundlichkeit"
It's new thing but I think it is good to remind people that

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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The US and UK are banning Russian oil and the EU is ending its reliance on Russian gas, stepping up the economic response to the invasion of Ukraine.

US President Joe Biden said the move targeted "the main artery of Russia's economy".

Energy exports are a vital source of revenue for Russia but the move is also likely to impact Western consumers.

Major brands have meanwhile continued to pull out of Russia, with McDonald's and Coca-Cola the latest to leave.

Russia's economy is heavily dependent on energy. It is the world's third-biggest oil producer, behind Saudi Arabia and the US.

Before the measures were announced, Russia warned of "catastrophic" consequences for the global economy and said it might close its main gas pipeline to Germany.

The conflict has sent petrol prices to record highs in the US and the UK.


Its just burgers and sodas, but these are very visible brands, one would wonder whether more Russians ain't going to wonder what exactly is going on here, besides what the Russian media is telling them. Seriously, if Russia were doing a liberation operation, the Russian people must think that the rest of the world have gone completely crazy. :)

They can be that naive, its almost terrifying to witness the effect of propaganda. No wonder, Hitler manage to convinced the Germans or how other dictators manage to get away with it.
You can have McDonald's move into Russia.

That would be helping the allies.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
It's new thing but I think it is good to remind people that

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That kind of proves that governments are involved. I have never heard them tell so many lies as I heard the past 2 years...not just Holland. So they planned it for years it seems

Understandable that truth is the first casualty, they use propaganda to brainwash and blind the people, so the people play along with their sick plans
 
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