Self or Apple?

[Ouroboros]

Then i live in a wonderful world of illusion where everything is real.

It is the best.

 

[atanu]

We are able to perceive the apple as well as and no better than we perceive ourselves.

Can you explain it?

 

[allfoak]

@atanu

We can know the essence of the apple when we know the essence of ourselves.

Why is an apple an apple and not an orange?
One cannot get an orange from the seed of an apple.

Each bears fruit according to its own kind.
Like the apple, we are also fruit born of its own kind.

 

[atanu]

@atanu

We can know the essence of the apple when we know the essence of ourselves.
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Like the apple, we are also fruit born of its own kind.

Do you mean to say that the essential apple is unknown as the essential self is unknown?

 

[allfoak]

Do you mean to say that the essential apple is unknown as the essential self is unknown?

Correct

 

[Aiviu]

Many aver that spiritualists are vague and rely on anecdotes. In this regard, I ask what is more directly perceptible, the self or an apple on your palm?

It relies on which sense who are cut or blend out. The eyes or the self? The one which was in a subconsciouss state give the other the first part of perception which leads me to the desire to taste the apple. Maybe the desire is first when i am not pensive in mind and i just want to eat an apple.

 

[atanu]

All science (Wissenschaft) however is a function of the soul, in which all knowledge is rooted. The soul is the greatest of all cosmic miracles, it is the conditio sine qua non of the world as an object. It is exceedingly astonishing that the Western world (apart from very rare exceptions) seems to have so little appreciation of this being so. The flood of external objects of cognizance has made the subject of all cognizance withdraw to the background, often to apparent non-existence.
Erwin Schrodinger
What is Life?