We Never Know
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Do you think people should agree, accept or even change their ways of life based on your self perception?
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Self perception
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Heyo
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It would be nice if people accepted my self classification. I think it is pretty preposterous to tell me what I believe or not believe. But other than that ...
Self perception is probably more skewed than the perception of others. Dunning/Kruger found that about 90% perceive themselves to be in the top 10% performers of any given task.
I probably won't agree with your self perception if it isn't backed by objective evidence.
We Never Know
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By "objective evidence" do you mean verifiable and testable? Or something else?
Heyo
Veteran Member
Is there other objective evidence? I won't require scientific rigidity. Some number, not from the imagination of the claimant, that can be ordered is enough.
We Never Know
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Can a belief be tested through brain scans?
Heyo
Veteran Member
Barely, not enough to count that as evidence. But believes aren't comparable anyway and I don't think they are part of one's self perception, more one's self identification.
We Never Know
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To my understanding love, hate, etc can be shown through brain scans... why can't a belief in a god?
That belief should also stimulate certain parts of the brain.
Heyo
Veteran Member
There have been claims that that has been achieved but they were later refuted. Belief is, as yet, too complex to attribute it to activity in certain brain regions.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/god-neurons-may-be-everyw/
We Never Know
No Slack
But yet if someone thinks of something they love, like, or makes them happy, it supposedly can be seen in a brain scan.
So if when its comes to a god... If they love him, like him, or the thought makes them happy,, why can't it be seen in a scan?
Heyo
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I don't know and I guess neurologists also don't (yet).
We Never Know
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Or sometimes, IMO, we don't know as much as we think we do.
Like this.....
We see 2+2=4
But what if it was really...
.5+.75+.25+.35+.65+.15+ .35 +1 that =4.
Instead of two things, there are eight and any random change in any of that eight will bring about completely different answers.
In the end we can get the same answer but completely different ways.
We simplify things so they make sense to us. We round up or down when even the slightest calculation change can have major change to everything in the long run.
Lets assume everything we have figured is one second off per year.
In five billion years how far would we be off?
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Is self-perception the same as self-classification?
Since childhood, I haven't had had anyone tell me to believe or not believe. That's probably because aside from behavior, in day-to-day life, others have no evidence of what I believe or disbelieve.
It's silly to suggest the need for objective evidence of something that's entire subjective.
I don't, but they do anyway.
If you talk with confidence or passion, which comes from self perception people are more likely to believe you.
If you talk with 100% certainty, most people will be persuaded that you are telling the truth.
More over, if you can fake these things, your chances of making it as a cult leader increase quite a bit.
Heyo
Veteran Member
No. Self classification (or self identification) is a group you belong to. "I identify as an Agnostic."
Self perception is weighing your abilities. "I'm a better driver than 90% of the people on the road."
Do you think people should agree, accept or even change their ways of life based on your self perception?
I'm not entirely sure what the OP means by self-perception (please clarify @We Never Know) but if this is intended to ask whether we think others should convert to our way of doing things?
Absolutely. Positively. Resoundingly. NO. NEVER. EVER.
The very idea of such a thing is gross. Annihilate all human diversity? Gross. Gross beyond words.
I'm not entirely sure what the OP means by self-perception (please clarify @We Never Know) but if this is intended to ask whether we think others should convert to our way of doing things?
Absolutely. Positively. Resoundingly. NO. NEVER. EVER.
The very idea of such a thing is gross. Annihilate all human diversity? Gross. Gross beyond words.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Should people change their ways based on black people having a self perception of worth and value? Should people change based on women's self perception of possessing value and dignity? Should people lay off of queers because we percieve ourselves as deserving better treatment?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Do you think people should agree, accept, or even change their self perception based on your way of life?
How would one's self perception even affect another's "way of life"?
Should one person's "way of life" be a valid justification for denying another person rights, liberty, equality, or justice?
One should be strongly encouraged to change their "way of life" if it involves wallowing in hate, fear, and ignorance.
Curious George
Veteran Member
I think many took your question to the extreme. But, I think that the real answer is: to some degree. We are a social animal and to ignore others perspectives in favor of the rigidity of our own beliefs can have a deleterious impact (both on ourselves and others).
understanding other’s perspectives, analysis and reflection are paramount to our own learning and growth.