Self, Son of Man, and Glorification of God

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I cannot speak to how a persons lives their life, but I find no support in the church teachings, policies etc for accepting abuse, covering up abuse etc. Yes at times it happens, the church condemns murder that does not mean no one who attends has violated that commandment. Accepting this reality is quite different from pretending that the church teaches or endorses murder.


that the culturally acceptable age of marriage 150 years ago was lower then today does not mean an evil or criminal thing occurred. A lot of things are different in different cultures.

Racism was rationalized as a "cultural norm" too. Those led by love, justice, kindness would not follow the popular beliefs of the time, but would hold to a higher standard. There are examples of those who did not follow the herd .... being popular dies not make it right...

No. Young girl and YOUNG boy was common. Not young girl and OLD man... old man who threatened girl and girl's family, and lied to their first wife... Mormons were rejected and "persecuted" because they were NOT following social norms with child polygamous brides.

The church gave him callings. Everyone raised their hands in front of those kids, year after year, sustaining him and endorsing him in those leadership callings. Those callings are not from god- everyone raising their hands to sustain - they were not led in truth or supporting anything noble.

Follow the herd, follow the leader, follow the popular mob - not such a great thing.

 

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Why do a majority of Christians not glorify God in the body of mankind, or son of man?

John 14:20

Why do most abrahamic believers not exalt God in the earth?

psalms 46:10

Back to the thread - following leaders as if they are sent from God- those leaders become a God.

An incorporeal, not human, representation of principles is best.

 

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Racism was rationalized as a "cultural norm" too. Those led by love, justice, kindness would not follow the popular beliefs of the time, but would hold to a higher standard. There are examples of those who did not follow the herd .... being popular dies not make it right...

No. Young girl and YOUNG boy was common. Not young girl and OLD man... old man who threatened girl and girl's family, and lied to their first wife... Mormons were rejected and "persecuted" because they were NOT following social norms with child polygamous brides.

The church gave him callings. Everyone raised their hands in front of those kids, year after year, sustaining him and endorsing him in those leadership callings. Those callings are not from god- everyone raising their hands to sustain - they were not led in truth or supporting anything noble.

Follow the herd, follow the leader, follow the popular mob - not such a great thing.

Did you ever take a history class? At time in many cultures men were 20+ years older than their wives this was common in many parts of Europe and the Middle East.

Your conclusion does not reality, but hey have a nice life.

 

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Did you ever take a history class? At time in many cultures men were 20+ years older than their wives this was common in many parts of Europe and the Middle East.

Your conclusion does not reality, but hey have a nice life.

Do you know why people "persecuted" the Mormon church? It was because the current culture did not accept polygamous sex cult next door - it was not accepted.

Also, popular does not equal ethical. I do not agree that what is practiced in some cultures around the world is ethical.

From the other marriage thread, I believe the most beautiful unions are "equally yoked", both work, both change diapers, both cook, both clean - shared experiences, shared workload...(my spouse and I both work, we both cook etc, and so we have shared lives- not living in two different disconnected worlds). would you yoke a 45 year old ox to a baby ox? That is not equally yoked. Can a single man have deep, meaningful, shared life with... 40 other women?....

Some see -one and only - soul mates - everything shared - equal yokes - as beautiful.

 

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Do you know why people "persecuted" the Mormon church? It was because the current culture did not accept polygamous sex cult next door - it was not accepted.

Also, popular does not equal ethical. I do not agree that what is practiced in some cultures around the world is ethical.

From the other marriage thread, I believe the most beautiful unions are "equally yoked", both work, both change diapers, both cook, both clean - shared experiences, shared workload...(my spouse and I both work, we both cook etc, and so we have shared lives- not living in two different disconnected worlds). would you yoke a 45 year old ox to a baby ox? That is not equally yoked. Can a single man have deep, meaningful, shared life with... 40 other women?....

Some see -one and only - soul mates - everything shared - equal yokes - as beautiful.

I'm all for equally yoking.

But lets take this notion of yours to its logical end.

We today have ethical values not shared in many parts of the world and not in years past.

Do you condemn Moses for allowing slavery?
Paul for sending a slave back to his master?
Christ for inferring that a women was a dog?

 

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I'm all for equally yoking.

But lets take this notion of yours to its logical end.

We today have ethical values not shared in many parts of the world and not in years past.

Do you condemn Moses for allowing slavery?
Paul for sending a slave back to his master?
Christ for inferring that a women was a dog?

Yes, I condemn all slavery. Yes, I think calling others names is childish. I do not base my morals on the Bible, there are many immoral things in the Bible.

Justice for all, golden rule, do no harm, protect innocent, honesty, hard work, I follow principles not books, not people.

... That this thread has gone from - Mormons don't abuse children to - trying to justify child brides - it is evident what lives in the hearts of many Mormons.

 

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Yes, I condemn all slavery. Yes, I think calling others names is childish. I do not base my morals on the Bible, there are many immoral things in the Bible.

Justice for all, golden rule, do no harm, protect innocent, honesty, hard work, I follow principles not books, not people.

... That this thread has gone from - Mormons don't abuse children to - trying to justify child brides - it is evident what lives in the hearts of many Mormons.

You stated going way off topic and now your condemning pretty much every nation and culture that does not abide by Western 2022 rules. I’ll let you guys what I think should be done with your bigotry.