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Selling Your Eggs & Sperm

Lightkeeper

Well-Known Member
Some college students are doing this to pay off their tuitions. Could you do it? Is it ethical or moral? If you did, wouldn't you wonder about your offspring? Wouldn't it be like abandonment of your offspring to just not be in the picture? What do you think"
 

meogi

Well-Known Member
I could do it... I don't really have any problems with the idea of getting money for a little bit of my time.

Lightkeeper said:
Is it ethical or moral?
Sure, but not for you - for the person wanting the kid. If they are not able to have kids, but want one, I don't see why they should be denied.

Lightkeeper said:
If you did, wouldn't you wonder about your offspring?
You have no idea when the offspring would be born. So it would be like wondering about a possible child. Yes I'd do it, but I do it now... so I don't see much of a difference.

Lightkeeper said:
Wouldn't it be like abandonment of your offspring to just not be in the picture?
There is no abandonment, because you were never attached in the first place. It's not your kid... it's the kid of the person(s) who decide to raise the child.
 

SaraLee

Member
Biologically it is half your kid and I wouldn't do it. I'd wonder my whole lifetime if part of my physical being was treated well, was in a kind and loving home. Not all people who use donated sperm or eggs are suitable parents no matter how much they are screened ahead of time.
SaraLee
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
Look i think if i'm giving a couple who are unable to have children the opportunity to then i think it's a good idea. I mean who wouldn't want a child as good looking as me:D
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
Lightkeeper said:
Some college students are doing this to pay off their tuitions. Could you do it? Is it ethical or moral? If you did, wouldn't you wonder about your offspring? Wouldn't it be like abandonment of your offspring to just not be in the picture? What do you think"

I see it as selling your child. I never had a Father, so I feel very strongly against child abondonment, and especially against capitalizing on abondoning them.


I think it should be harder to have a child than it is to get a home. It would get rid of a lot of problems in the world. If people want other people's kids, there are millions of ******** like myself in the world who would have loved to find a good home.

:banghead3
 

Lightkeeper

Well-Known Member
jewscout said:
Look i think if i'm giving a couple who are unable to have children the opportunity to then i think it's a good idea. I mean who wouldn't want a child as good looking as me:D
If you look like your smilie here, then I think people would be waiting in line. Would you have contact with these children? Would you expect money?
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
Lightkeeper said:
If you look like your smilie here, then I think people would be waiting in line. Would you have contact with these children? Would you expect money?
No i wouldn't have contact with them. I know that sounds bad of me but i'd like to think i'm helping people create a family that otherwise can't do it. I don't want to plant carrots in their cabbage patch. If the child found me then that's their purogative.
No i wouldn't necessarily expect money for my DNA but if they want to give me some that would be great.:D :jiggy:

I'm not green like the smilie but i do have big green eyes! My gf (and most women i talk to) love them.:cool:
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
Lightkeeper said:
Some college students are doing this to pay off their tuitions. Could you do it?
Certainly...How much are they paying?
:)

Is it ethical or moral?
I don`t see why not as far as no one is harmed.
In fact I would consider it morally good to an extent considering you may be helping someone concieve who wouldn`t be able to otherwise.

If you did, wouldn't you wonder about your offspring? Wouldn't it be like abandonment of your offspring to just not be in the picture?
No one in the history of mankind has ever abandoned their offspring.
Many have abandoned their children but thats an entirely different story.
It takes more than semen or an ova to make a mother or father.
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
linwood said:
No one in the history of mankind has ever abandoned their offspring.
Many have abandoned their children but thats an entirely different story.
It takes more than semen or an ova to make a mother or father.
You play you pay, that is my rule of thumb, don't even have sex if you aren't ready to take care of a child :tsk:, even if you donate your sperm or eggs, it is still your child. If you don't believe that, just wait until you have one, you will see how it feels. Even if you have nothing to do with them, I guarantee you will feel the connection to them.
 

Bastet

Vile Stove-Toucher
huajiro ~ I do in part know where you are coming from...I met my father for the first time when I was 19. It has been an uneasy relationship at best in the time since, and pretty well non-existant in the last couple of years (since I came out). However, if I could help another couple have a child, then I would do it. I can totally understand a woman's wish to carry a child herself, rather than adopt (although there are plenty of adoptable children out there too). Quite apart from anything else, since, if I am to have a child myself, I have to rely on a friendly donation, I'd be quite the hypocrite to say I wouldn't do the same for another. ;) I do think that anyone considering donating eggs/sperm, seriously needs to think about whether they are comfortable with the thought of the resulting child(ren) possibly tracking them down one day. If you're not comfortable with that, don't do it.
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
huajiro said:
You play you pay, that is my rule of thumb, don't even have sex if you aren't ready to take care of a child :tsk:, even if you donate your sperm or eggs, it is still your child. If you don't believe that, just wait until you have one, you will see how it feels. Even if you have nothing to do with them, I guarantee you will feel the connection to them.
I have three of them.

OK..only one is biologically mine but that actually gives me a better perspective on what you say considering the father of the two that are not mine doesn`t appear to feel much of a connection with them.

You cannot feel a connection to a child you`ve never seen, met ,heard of, or can even be certain exists.
Just because you`ve donated sperm or an ova doesn`t mean anything ever became of it.
I`d feel kinda silly feeling a connection to something that I discovered later never existed.
Does a child born from donated sperm and is never informed of it feel a connection to the donor?
The child can`t because he/she is unaware of the fathers existence.
The same is true for the donor, he cannot feel a connection because he doesn`t know if a child has even been created with his donation.

I myself never knew my father and never had an iota of desire to meet him.

If you donate money are the things purchased with it yours or your responsibility?
If you donate blood is it still yours ?
If you donate a kidney is it still yours and can the recipient begin civil litigation against you if it fails?

I don`t think so.

Sperm is not a child, an ova is not a child.
Being a sperm donor does not a father make.
Just because a child was created with my sperm does not make it mine in this context considering all responsibility has been taken from me due to the situation.

The end result of whatever is created with my sperm is not my responsibilty because I "gave" up my rights to that creation if I ever had any to begin with.
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
Bastet said:
huajiro ~ I do in part know where you are coming from...I met my father for the first time when I was 19. It has been an uneasy relationship at best in the time since, and pretty well non-existant in the last couple of years (since I came out). However, if I could help another couple have a child, then I would do it. I can totally understand a woman's wish to carry a child herself, rather than adopt (although there are plenty of adoptable children out there too). Quite apart from anything else, since, if I am to have a child myself, I have to rely on a friendly donation, I'd be quite the hypocrite to say I wouldn't do the same for another. ;) I do think that anyone considering donating eggs/sperm, seriously needs to think about whether they are comfortable with the thought of the resulting child(ren) possibly tracking them down one day. If you're not comfortable with that, don't do it.
I just think we should only think about the children, only them. There are so many, why not take care of the ones that are out there? They are not cars, or homes where we can design them the way we want them. We are not perfect, why should we expect them to be?
 

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
Whoa, they pay people for donating eggs? :eek: Tell me where I can sign up! It's not like I'll ever use them...
 

Ceridwen018

Well-Known Member
If you donate money are the things purchased with it yours or your responsibility?
If you donate blood is it still yours ?
If you donate a kidney is it still yours and can the recipient begin civil litigation against you if it fails?

I don`t think so.

Sperm is not a child, an ova is not a child.
Yes, but when you donate them, you do so for the purpose that they will become a child. That's the point. Children are more important and complex than blood and kidneys, don't you agree?
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
Ceridwen018 said:
Yes, but when you donate them, you do so for the purpose that they will become a child. That's the point. Children are more important and complex than blood and kidneys, don't you agree?
It depends on how you`re looking at it.

Yes..I`m donating sperm (hypothetically) in order to create a child but thats not really my reasoning for doing so considering the child will not be mine and I have no personal stake in the outcome
I will not be the childs father.

The reason I`m donating is to help someone gain something they badly want or need.

I believe the examples I gave about money, blood, and organs are donated for the same purpose.
To help.

I personally was being flippant earlier about donating for money as I don`t believe I would do so.

If I were to donate sperm I wouldn`t accept money for it for the same reasons I have donated money and blood for no personal gain other than the satisfaction one gets from helping.

However there are other reasons to donate sperm other than the creation of a child.
The students in question in the OP are doing it because they need the money not because they wish to create a child even if they feel good about the posibilty.
I would do it because it would help someone gain something that I personally know is the greatest thing any person ever had.

That kind of karma can`t be bought.

In short...
My reasons for donating sperm would not be to create a child.
My reasons would be to give someone the greatest of all gifts.
 

Runt

Well-Known Member
I don't think it is moral or immoral to donate eggs or sperm... as long as they weren't being used to make lots of babies to harvest organs from or something horrible like that (o_O). It would just be an opportunity to allow others to have children if they wanted them. Well, that an an opportunity to directly effect the future of our species by flooding the human genepool with WAY more of MY genetic information than would ever have been passed on in a normal way, thereby allowing my descendants to TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!! Mwahaha...
 

Bastet

Vile Stove-Toucher
huajiro said:
I just think we should only think about the children, only them. There are so many, why not take care of the ones that are out there? They are not cars, or homes where we can design them the way we want them. We are not perfect, why should we expect them to be?
Where did I say anything about only wanting perfect children, or making designer babies? :confused: I have nothing whatsoever against adoption, but you have to remember, in the majority of places, gay persons/couples cannot adopt. Until the laws change, not much I can personally do about that. They can, however, use sperm banks, or find a surrogate mother. (BTW, our Prime Minister is trying to make it illegal for gay couples to even adopt children overseas (i.e. third world countries where these kids die in orphanages), and bring them into the country. Compassionate man, this. :sarcastic Would rather these kids die, than be raised by the terrible homosexuals.)
 

The Voice of Reason

Doctor of Thinkology
For what it's worth, from the age of about 15 to the age of 31 (when I got married) I tried continuously to donate sperm. Turns out, most women just didn't want it. :eek:

TVOR

PS - sorry - just trying to lighten things up a little.
 
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