Senate upholds findings re Russia

[james dixon]

Twitter and it was admitted that overall there was no real preference as the ads both supported and bashed Trump and Clinton. The narrative then was that the Russians were just trying to cause division in the U.S. but if we look back on the coverage before, during, and after the election it seems our own domestic media sources were doing a great job of it all by themselves.

Do you work for Trump by any chance?

I only ask because there must be a logical reason for lying.

Your handlers should have kept you up to date. The Republican intelligence Committee has already admitted to Russia's interference.

 

[Revoltingest]

Do you work for Trump by any chance?

I only ask because there must be a logical reason for lying.

Your handlers should have kept you up to date. The Republican intelligence Committee has already admitted to Russia's interference.

Dang, fella....stick to issues, & avoid personal abuse.
We don't want to attract mods & their kuckle busting rulers.

 

[idav]

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Many European countries, including mine had a "clear preference" for then-candidate Donald Trump in the 2016 election ...because Hillary was behind the destabilization of Libya and Syria...
Does this mean we helped him win?

Many European countries like France have a clear preference for Obama and Clinton. Trump is destabilizing a lot more than a couple countries.

This is astounding news!

No, wait....we knew all along during the campaign that Russia preferred Trump to Hillary.
The real issue was whether Trump colluded with them.
Any news on that?

Are you now one of Pence's "servile supporters"?
(You know...on the impeachment bandwagon.)
Talk about debasing the USA.....jeepers!

The News is the senate saying something different from the house. The question now is how many of Trumps campaign colluded cause collisions from Trumps campaign has been found. Whether Trump is involved is still an on going investigation but it’s not looking good for anyone connected with Trump.

 

[james dixon]

Dang, fella....stick to issues, & avoid personal abuse.

Well said.
Thank you for the advice; I will comply while not even knowing what was wrong with what I said.

Having said that, it is best I leave this discussion.

bye

 

[james dixon]

Dang, fella....stick to issues, & avoid personal abuse.

My bad. I did accuse you of lying when you were just confused as to what was true and what was not.

My mistake
please forgive me

 

[Revoltingest]

My bad. I did accuse you of lying when you were just confused as to what was true and what was not.

My mistake
please forgive me

I only want us to avoid the banfairy's appearance.
Btw, my advice to you could be seen as a compliment.
There are some here who are just plain nasty, & won't change, so I avoid them like the plague.
But I know you care about civil & interesting conversation.

 

[Revoltingest]

The News is the senate saying something different from the house. The question now is how many of Trumps campaign colluded cause collisions from Trumps campaign has been found. Whether Trump is involved is still an on going investigation but it’s not looking good for anyone connected with Trump.

People are being caught, but it looks like for things other than collusion.
To have prosecutors come after you with both barrels blazing often means
getting caught for something. Think of Martha Stewart, who was imprisoned
for lying rather than the insider trading for which they pursued her.
Government....if they wanna get you, they'll get you for something.
But all these indictments shouldn't be cited as proof of collusion, as
some are doing.

 

[fantome profane]

People are being caught, but it looks like for things other than collusion.
To have prosecutors come after you with both barrels blazing often means
getting caught for something. Think of Martha Stewart, who was imprisoned
for lying rather than the insider trading for which they pursued her.
Government....if they wanna get you, they'll get you for something.
But all these indictments shouldn't be cited as proof of collusion, as
some are doing.

I wonder how many people remember the name of that prosecutor who sent Martha Stewart to jail.

 

[Revoltingest]

I wonder how many people remember the name of that prosecutor who sent Martha Stewart to jail.

I didn't.
http://observer.com/2003/06/meet-marthas-prosecutor/

On a Friday morning a few weeks ago, the man who’s trying to put Martha Stewart in jail was leaning back in his brown leather chair in his office downtown in the Federal Courthouse Building at 1 St. Andrews Plaza. Since his appointment by George W. Bush as United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York in January 2002, James Comey has racked up a record that would make even the coolest white collar break out in sweat. Last June, his office prosecuted ImClone’s high-flying chief executive, Sam Waksal, who was sentenced this week to seven years in prison. The following month, Mr. Comey’s office busted Adelphia founder John Rigas and his sons, Timothy and Michael, former executives of the company; they were indicted in September. In August, he arrested Scott Sullivan, the ex–chief financial officer of WorldCom. Before long, Mr. Comey was referring to summer 2002 as “the Summer of White Collar.”

 

[Estro Felino]

Many European countries like France have a clear preference for Obama and Clinton. Trump is destabilizing a lot more than a couple countries.
.

Yes...we don't mind saying we are pro-Putin

Spoiler: Rome is on Putin's side. Obama unwanted

 

[idav]

Yes...we don't mind saying we are pro-Putin

Spoiler: Rome is on Putin's side. Obama unappreciated guest

Yea well there are folks like that everywhere. It makes sense to some extent considering the arms race they had in Russia, however the European Right doesn’t speak for all of Europe. Last I checked Russia is still not part of the G7 even if Italy and US are currently Russian sympathizers.

 

[idav]

People are being caught, but it looks like for things other than collusion.
To have prosecutors come after you with both barrels blazing often means
getting caught for something. Think of Martha Stewart, who was imprisoned
for lying rather than the insider trading for which they pursued her.
Government....if they wanna get you, they'll get you for something.
But all these indictments shouldn't be cited as proof of collusion, as
some are doing.

Yeah people are getting caught for all sorts of things because Trump surrounds himself and or sympathizes with the most shady people on the planet. Don’t try and just say their is nothing being found Trump Jr is in hot water specifically for collusion and there are tapes and stuff Trump himself transcribed. Stuff is getting real.

 

[Revoltingest]

Don’t try and just say their is nothing being found Trump Jr is in hot water specifically for collusion and there are tapes and stuff Trump himself transcribed.

I didn't try to tell you that.
I've no way of knowing.

Stuff is getting real.

You don't know...you only hope.
I'll wait for things to actually be real before claiming knowledge.

 

[Sunstone]

i suppose it is tiresome to mention US interference in foreign elections.

The one doesn't excuse the other though, does it? In my perfect world, they'd be no interventions except -- perhaps -- to prevent a genocide or such.

 

[BSM1]

Is that why there have been indictments, plea bargins, agreements to cooperate with the investigation, and guilty charges?

But not against Trump and not even directly related to the election.

 

[Revoltingest]

i suppose it is tiresome to mention US interference in foreign elections.

But it is significant in that this has been perfectly acceptable up
until it worked against this country, ie, the Democratic candidate.
I don't think their outrage is feigned, but it is only partially about the
wrongness of a foreign country covertly influencing the election.
It's mostly about Hillary's loss & Trump's win. By escalating the
wrongness of this old tactic, it becomes an evil they can hope
to pin on Trump. This need explains their rush to judgement.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But not against Trump and not even directly related to the election.

Muellers investigation doesn't officially does not specifically state Trump. It doesn't even say the word collusion, for that matter. And with what Mueller is supposed to be investigating, he has uncovered that individuals within Trump's campaign and administration did infact have such contacts with Russia. That's why I've been saying since day one that because Trump is an outsider he may be standing after the whole thing because he was left in the dark about it. Trump may believe otherwise, but not everything revolves around him. Mueller isn't inspecting Trump, he is inspecting a group that includes Trump.

 

[Audie]

The one doesn't excuse the other though, does it? In my perfect world, they'd be no interventions except -- perhaps -- to prevent a genocide or such.

Does not remotely excuse it.
It would tho take a thousand years of electionhacking
to come sort of correspond to American intervention in China
alone.
I wonder what sense of perspective the outraged actually have.

 

[Audie]

It is a relatively new genre of porn.

There is a new genre of soap opera too.

 

[BSM1]

Muellers investigation doesn't officially does not specifically state Trump. It doesn't even say the word collusion, for that matter. And with what Mueller is supposed to be investigating, he has uncovered that individuals within Trump's campaign and administration did infact have such contacts with Russia. That's why I've been saying since day one that because Trump is an outsider he may be standing after the whole thing because he was left in the dark about it. Trump may believe otherwise, but not everything revolves around him. Mueller isn't inspecting Trump, he is inspecting a group that includes Trump.

"...doesn't officially does not specifically state Trump..."??? This is why some of us look at you Trump haters and just shake our heads; you have nothing substantial so you make things up.