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Lain

Well-Known Member
I don't understand the logic here. God sent suffering because you appeared on His radar?

I am confused as to what you mean. I'll restate:

I consider the following idea to be false: "God will not allow me to suffer, and will even give me prosperity, because I sent money in [to a Church, these pastors, etc]."

This idea is in my experience prevalent among those who pay the tithe to these people, and I consider this idea to be false.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I am confused as to what you mean. I'll restate:

I consider the following idea to be false: "God will not allow me to suffer, and will even give me prosperity, because I sent money in [to a Church, these pastors, etc]."

This idea is in my experience prevalent among those who pay the tithe to these people, and I consider this idea to be false.
Simply put. I agree!
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
"God will not allow me to suffer, and will even give me prosperity, because I sent money in [to a Church, these pastors, etc]."

That's God is a piñata theology that all you need to do is "whack" God with prayers and money and goodies necessarily follow. AKA prosperity gospel.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If you can buy holy water, it might make you desperate enough for you to figure out how to pull money out of thin air. Peter puffin is a prophet.

Am I joking?
 

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
There is a scene in the holy mountain movie where, sitting around a table with a fire in the middle, the magician says to 'burn your money,' and the Jesus-like character wants to keep some. Why should faith need the foundation of money for any of its utility? Paul needed to work as a tent maker to get money, but couldn't he walk across the world with words, if they were strong enough
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
Your thoughts on televangelist tithing?


Many times I have turned on the TV, and I got a news broadcast (horrible wreck on the 101)....click......next channel......give me money yall, the lorrrredddd neeeeeds yo dough......click.....next channel....."Oh floyd, will Agness ever find a man to take care of her baby?".....click.....next channel....."Yall will go the hell, and burn in the eternal fires, unless yall gives us money for our new wing on the holy temple that weeeese a buildin' a temple (accent from the deep south....of Brooklyn, that is....but God moves through them only if they have a southern accent), and weese a livin' in God's holy temple right now, to make sure it's suitable for the Loooooreeeeed.".....click....next channel......"Billlllllions and billllllions of stars....this is Karl Sagen saying, keep looking up,".....click....next channel....."Money is mammon, yall, it dun burns holes in yall's pockets if yall don't give until it hurts...the Lorrrreeeeddd needs yo dough.".....click....next channel......Sob.....cry.....tears running down her cheeks, smearing her mascara, running down the hefty boobed bare decollete that went down to her bare belly button (dressing modestly for the Lord)....."these starving Africans need yall's money.....theys starvin'.....theys needy.....theys ain't gunna be thar no more unless yall gives money (the money went to build a mansion and Reverend Jim Bakker went to jail...though Tammy Fay Bakker stayed out of jail, stuck to her man until she married another televangelist who did the same thing....she learned her lesson....not to get caught.

I finally found Star Trek (scantily clad green women from another planet).

Some televangelists beg for mammon continually, without let up, and they already have ornate churches. The quest for mammon has almost invariably overcame the worship of God. The mission to get mammon has overcome the missions to feed the poor, oppose gun violence, etc. Support of the National Rifle Association and their support of guns to kill people won the election against legitimate war hero, Senator John Kerry. Broadcasts from televangelists campaigned for President George W. Bush, and millions of Religious Right voters voted him into office. Religion mixed with politics, ostensibly to end abortion (it wasn't an issue after he was elected)....and to allow public prayer for all students (regardless of religion, all had to be embarrassed that they were not of the same religion and all had to acknowledge that Christ was the lord). Separation of church and state was seen as an attempt to take away the religion from the kids of the Religious Right. They are the environmental presidents who pass great pollution laws, they waive them for fracking (over objections of "Ozone Bozos)." Logging roads are build into pristine forests, and small squares of the forest are strip logged. Oil is drilled offshore, with no safeguards if there is a spill. Pipelines burst. Cougars are seen running along pipelines (making nature work easier).

Televangelists tell starving Christians to cast their bread upon the waters, and it will come back three fold (actually it doesn't come back at all). If it doesn't come back, it's because all humans were born with original sin, and they didn't pray hard enough to Jesus.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
There is a scene in the holy mountain movie where, sitting around a table with a fire in the middle, the magician says to 'burn your money,' and the Jesus-like character wants to keep some. Why should faith need the foundation of money for any of its utility? Paul needed to work as a tent maker to get money, but couldn't he walk across the world with words, if they were strong enough
Jesus:...."render unto Caesar that which is Caesars." (pay taxes to keep brutal Rome strong). Peasants were allowed to keep very little. Brutality was not opposed strongly enough, and that brutality eventually tortured Jesus to death.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
I am confused as to what you mean. I'll restate:

I consider the following idea to be false: "God will not allow me to suffer, and will even give me prosperity, because I sent money in [to a Church, these pastors, etc]."

This idea is in my experience prevalent among those who pay the tithe to these people, and I consider this idea to be false.

First of all, you can't bribe God.

Secondly, it is all a scam to part the misled from their hard-earned money (what little they have of it).
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
I just read a news article that Joel Olsteen's janitor found a hole in the wall with boatloads of cash.
Scientology televangelist Olsteen owns a 17,000 Sq Ft. mansion ($10.5) with a mob of workers, and owns many large houses, bought his wife a lamborgini, bought an $86 million airbus, etc.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I thought he was Xian. I guess that's because I saw him in ut.

Also, I had a dream about him before I saw him anywhere.
 

mangalavara

नमस्कार
Premium Member
Scientology televangelist Olsteen owns a 17,000 Sq Ft. mansion ($10.5) with a mob of workers, and owns many large houses, bought his wife a lamborgini, bought an $86 million airbus, etc.

Scientology? Anyway, sounds like that prosperity gospel is working for him! :tongueout:
 
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