Serial Killers....You Might Know One Too

[oldbadger]

With all the famous serial killers in Britain,
that's all you gots? Slink away in shame.

Ummm.......... I knew an awful lot of serial shoplifters, used to catch 'em all the time. One dear old lady (probably about your age) used to nick all her favourites like asparagus shoots, tinned mussels and jams, and if she got caught the police would come and take her home, and she got a cup of tea while she waited for 'em.

Well, she might have been a terror with her gardening billhook, how would I have known?

 

[Revoltingest]

Ummm.......... I knew an awful lot of serial shoplifters, used to catch 'em all the time. One dear old lady (probably about your age) used to nick all her favourites like asparagus shoots, tinned mussels and jams, and if she got caught the police would come and take her home, and she got a cup of tea while she waited for 'em.

Well, she might have been a terror with her gardening billhook, how would I have known?

Only 8 years prison for 8 rapes?

Btw, I grown my own asparagus.

 

[Laika]

I think I agreed with mostly everything you said. However, the French revolution is an example of what happens when you push people too far. Many places around the globe push people too far. The robber police that has come to be, the killer monsters in uniform - tell us that society is approaching the precipice of anarchy. The recent unusual baseless deportations of people who have been established long time without any serious crime - all tell a dark tale.

Society must exist to give people a safe heaven in good times and in bad times. It does not exist so that 3 people in the US can own as much as all the rest. So while the rich can build walls around their huge estates, can they really exist without the rest of us? Everyone is better off when the difference between the poor and the rich is less extreme than it has become. Strangely enough it is one of the things that we are told brings God's wrath, namely, that the social contract has been rejected, the poor downtrodden to a huge extend, etc.

I essentially agree with everything you have said here. In that the breakdown of the social contract is a violation of fundamental laws about the tolerance of social institutions, I can well understand why you would think it is God's wrath. It makes sense even though I don't believe in God, I can understand how describing the will of God is a way of understanding how the world works and its limitations. Social institutions all have a finite tolerance to stress and they continue to be put under stress as of late. Its not healthy to say the least. In the grand scheme of things, it is dangerous to do because humanity (or God) can pass judgement on them and try to sweep them aside. Hopefully its for something better, but its not always clear during the violent disruption and conflict.

 

[oldbadger]

Only 8 years prison for 8 rapes?

Btw, I grown my own asparagus.

Yeah...... he was my wife's psychotherapist circa 1980's (don't ask) and was putting patients under and,, well..... you know. (Dr A)

The first Hospital (St A's) that discovered his true nature just got rid of him quietly, and he got caught by a very brave nurse at the second (B-Stoke) who risked all to report him. Whistle-blower risks....... disgusting.

He probably got a shorter sentence through profession, handshake, institutional embarrassment, different (80's)culture.

We seem to have had slight problems with openess and honesty in our jolly old NHS, back then. Don't know about now.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yeah...... he was my wife's psychotherapist circa 1980's (don't ask) and was putting patients under and,, well..... you know. (Dr A)

The first Hospital (St A's) that discovered his true nature just got rid of him quietly, and he got caught by a very brave nurse at the second (B-Stoke) who risked all to report him. Whistle-blower risks....... disgusting.

He probably got a shorter sentence through profession, handshake, institutional embarrassment, different (80's)culture.

We seem to have had slight problems with openess and honesty in our jolly old NHS, back then. Don't know about now.

That nasty institutional habit of covering up & enabling predators sure gets everywhere.

 

[Grandliseur]

I essentially agree with everything you have said here. In that the breakdown of the social contract is a violation of fundamental laws about the tolerance of social institutions, I can well understand why you would think it is God's wrath. It makes sense even though I don't believe in God, I can understand how describing the will of God is a way of understanding how the world works and its limitations. Social institutions all have a finite tolerance to stress and they continue to be put under stress as of late. Its not healthy to say the least. In the grand scheme of things, it is dangerous to do because humanity (or God) can pass judgement on them and try to sweep them aside. Hopefully its for something better, but its not always clear during the violent disruption and conflict.

Here is a quote about godliness from God, please notice how He rejects the outwardly empty things that accomplish nothing and demands that which is good for the poor:

Isaiah 58:5-8 5 Should the fast that I choose become like this, as a day for earthling man to afflict his soul? For bowing down his head just like a rush, and that he should spread out mere sackcloth and ashes as his couch? Is it this that you call a fast and a day acceptable to Jehovah?

6 “Is not this the fast that I choose? To loosen the fetters of wickedness, to release the bands of the yoke bar, and to send away the crushed ones free, and that YOU people should tear in two every yoke bar? 7 Is it not the dividing of your bread out to the hungry one, and that you should bring the afflicted, homeless people into [your] house? That, in case you should see someone naked, you must cover him, and that you should not hide yourself from your own flesh? 8 “In that case your light would break forth just like the dawn; and speedily would recuperation spring up for you. . . .​

The laws of God are meant for making society a place of security, a place for all where they may have what is needed for human life.

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[esmith]

Anybody who has been in the Marines may have a tiny bit of a killing urge, and there are such people as snipers

I hope you implied that tongue-in-cheek.
If not, I don't think belonging to any organization that carries firearms predisposes one to "a tiny bit of a killing urge". However there are times that I would like a recoilless rifle mounted on the top of my truck.

 

[DennisTate]

Most here know that I had one doing computer work for me.
But they're all over the place....
Nearly 2,000 killers are at large in US, researcher claims | Daily Mail Online
So you might know one too!
Whaddaya think of that?

If we can get them into jail.........
then the Christians there can read them this over and over and over again.......
and they will come to teshuvah!


Sixwings and Sixwings11

Jesus spoke to me of Charlie Manson at this point. His loving tenderness in speaking of him quite shocked me. Jesus knew also that I had close relatives who were intimate with someone who arrived on the Tate crime scene; therefore, we heard the unpublished gruesome details within hours. I could not imagine anyone doing such atrocities to another and "have a chance in hell," of escaping hell. Now, hearing Jesus speaking of "My, Charlie"???? With such tenderness??? He said this to me, "You wonder at my love for him at how dear he is to me. It is because I know why he did what he did. I knew Charlie from the beginning. I was there when he was a child. I know the pain that his sin is rooted in. I know his pain."

I have read much on NDEs. I have read one widely publicized book that states that hell is reserved for the worst of people like Satanists. I agree with much of this author's writings, but having experienced an NDE myself, I also understand that we can make an assumption or misunderstand what we might only glimpse on the Other Side and how difficult it can be to integrate it through false worldly beliefs in the world. I also am fully aware that this that I write here is not going to be popular in the least. But I can't cover this up. Jesus did come for the whole world. That would include everyone. Charlie Manson was the leader of a Satanic Cult. There is a level in this darkness provided for healing, growth, and fears dissolving. Then entering into the next level. No "altar call" necessary. Jesus didn't have one altar call. He knows how people can be saved from themselves.