Serrano's Christ.

[John D. Brey]

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Andres Serrano's **** Christ generated a whole lot of negative attention from the world of would-be true believers. Naturally so, since the image pictures a crucifix submerged in urine. And yet, far from attempting to demonize Christ, Serrano (a practicing Catholic), is trying, in an artistic light, to examine the fact that Christ is already demonized throughout the scriptures, old and new. The legitimate question Serrano's image asks, is what's the relationship between the demonization of Christ, versus Christ's ability to purify even his own demonization?

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The beast which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.​

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Revelation 17:6-8.​

There's a deep and meaningful astonishment going on in the passage above. And for good reason. When we look at what the angel claims is the cause of the great astonishment, it's presented as the fact that the beast-anti-Christ once was, now is not, and yet will come. Mind you, in context, the Revelator tells us that the world is astonished "when they see" the beast-anti-Christ, "because he once was, now is not, and yet will come." In other words, something about "seeing" the beast-anti-Christ, relates firstly to the fact that he already once was, is not, and yet has now come? The nature of this logical construct is the cause of the great "astonishment." It's both the key to the mystery, and part and parcel of the meaning of Serrano's **** Christ.

John, to the churches in the province of Asia: Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come.​

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Revelation 1:4.​

The linkage between Revelation 17:6-8, and Revelation 1:4, segues into Serrano's **** Christ even more powerfully when we realize that the beast-anti-Christ is taught to be an incarnation of Satan, while the Hebrew name "Satan" is, etymologically speaking, related to "urine," or more precisely "pissing." The negative astonishment when Serrano's **** Christ was revealed for the first time, mimics the astonishment when the beast-anti-Christ is unveiled in the last days. Which is to say there will be an "astonishing" resemblance/relationship between the beast-anti-Christ ("Satan," that is, **** incarnate), and the person in the crosshairs of Revelation 1:4.



John

 

[Elihoenai]

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Andres Serrano's **** Christ generated a whole lot of negative attention from the world of would-be true believers. Naturally so, since the image pictures a crucifix submerged in urine. And yet, far from attempting to demonize Christ, Serrano (a practicing Catholic), is trying, in an artistic light, to examine the fact that Christ is already demonized throughout the scriptures, old and new. The legitimate question Serrano's image asks, is what's the relationship between the demonization of Christ, versus Christ's ability to purify even his own demonization?

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The beast which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.​

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Revelation 17:6-8.​

There's a deep and meaningful astonishment going on in the passage above. And for good reason. When we look at what the angel claims is the cause of the great astonishment, it's presented as the fact that the beast-anti-Christ once was, now is not, and yet will come. Mind you, in context, the Revelator tells us that the world is astonished "when they see" the beast-anti-Christ, "because he once was, now is not, and yet will come." In other words, something about "seeing" the beast-anti-Christ, relates firstly to the fact that he already once was, is not, and yet has now come? The nature of this logical construct is the cause of the great "astonishment." It's both the key to the mystery, and part and parcel of the meaning of Serrano's **** Christ.

John, to the churches in the province of Asia: Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come.​

​

Revelation 1:4.​

The linkage between Revelation 17:6-8, and Revelation 1:4, segues into Serrano's **** Christ even more powerfully when we realize that the beast-anti-Christ is taught to be an incarnation of Satan, while the Hebrew name "Satan" is, etymologically speaking, related to "urine," or more precisely "pissing." The negative astonishment when Serrano's **** Christ was revealed for the first time, mimics the astonishment when the beast-anti-Christ is unveiled in the last days. Which is to say there will be an "astonishing" resemblance/relationship between the beast-anti-Christ ("Satan," that is, **** incarnate), and the person in the crosshairs of Revelation 1:4.



John

The Roman Catholic Religious Order the Knights Templar were accused of Urinating on the Cross.


History of the Knights Templar

Fall

"...On August 12, 1308, the charges would be increased and would become more outrageous, one specifically stated that the Templars worshipped idols, specifically made of a cat and a head, the latter having three faces. The lists of articles 86 to 127[3] would add many other charges.[12][13] The majority of these charges were identical to the charges that had been earlier issued against the inconvenient Pope Boniface VIII: accusations of denying Christ, spitting and urinating on the cross, and devil worship...."

History of the Knights Templar - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Viker]

****christ is a decent song from Fear Factory's album Demanufacture (arguably their best album).

The OP title caught my attention. I really don't have much else to give. Sorry.

 

[John D. Brey]

The Roman Catholic Religious Order the Knights Templar were accused of Urinating on the Cross.


History of the Knights Templar

Fall

"...On August 12, 1308, the charges would be increased and would become more outrageous, one specifically stated that the Templars worshipped idols, specifically made of a cat and a head, the latter having three faces. The lists of articles 86 to 127[3] would add many other charges.[12][13] The majority of these charges were identical to the charges that had been earlier issued against the inconvenient Pope Boniface VIII: accusations of denying Christ, spitting and urinating on the cross, and devil worship...."

History of the Knights Templar - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Where Jung's collective unconscious is in the crosshairs of the examination of archetypal signs and symbols, urinating on the cross isn't merely some garden variety profane act, a silly slight of the cross or the one on it. On the contrary, it's part and parcel of a syzygy in the soul of the pisser, which on the macro-scale is a syzygy situated in the collective unconscious of the human race. This syzygy, or union of opposites, is a fundamental, even foundational, element of the most serious strains of Jewish kabbalah.

Functioning at several levels, this ritual process is at once an integration (within the worshiper) of the opposites of life and death, a unification (for God's sake) of the Trees of Life and Death, and a human attachment to the divine Tree of Death for the sake of renewed life.​

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Professor Michael Fishbane, The Kiss of God, p. 108.​

In Jewish mysticism, the tree of life, and the tree of death, grow from the same root. The latter is the outer, or fore, skene, behind which the tree of life exists. One has to remove the fore skene that's the tree of death (the prepuce of the tree of life), before they can partake (metzitzah) of the tree of life. In the same vein we have John 3:14 speaking of a rod of life hidden beneath Satan the serpent. And this Gospel syzygy isn't profane, since two verses latter we get the salvific result that flows from this demonic union of Satan and Christ: For God so loved the world that . . ..

Serrano's **** Christ mimics the union of the bronze-serpent and Moses' rod of life, ala Nehushtan. The bronze-serpent represents Satan, while Serrano's urine represents Satan. In Hebrew, "Satan" is שטן (shin-tet-nun), while "urine" or "pissing," is שתן (shin-tav-nun). Not only do the tet and the tav transliterate as the letter T (so that both words transliterate "Satan"), but no less a scholar than Rabbi Samson Hirsch tells us that phonetic similarities are etymologically unifying. Satan and urine share etymological similarity such that so to do Nehushtan and **** Christ.

In Hebrew there's direct and real relationship between "bronze" נחשת (nun-chet-shin-tav), and "serpent" נחש (nun-chet-shin), since the latter is the former without the tav-suffix. The same holds true for "Satan" and "urine," making Serrano's **** Christ a post-first-century manifestation of the same archetype as Nehushtan the bronze-serpent.

Israel was told that if they would but look up at the bronze-serpent in faith, they would be healed. The same is true of Serrano's **** Christ, since Nehushtan and **** Christ represent the same thing, a sygyzy, or union of utter opposites, worn between the udders of a certain biped mammal.




John

 

[John D. Brey]

****christ is a decent song from Fear Factory's album Demanufacture (arguably their best album).

The OP title caught my attention. I really don't have much else to give. Sorry.

Where is the son?​

To light the way​

Along the path​

Of our dismay​

If you mix a drop of black ink in a pitcher of pure water, the water will be stained. If you mix a drop of pure water in a pitcher of black ink, it will disappear. If you drop a crucifix in a pitcher of urine, it becomes living water, fit to be poured over ice and served to those seeking a path out of the dismay, the fire and brimstone, of hell itself.

Where is your savior now?​

Where is your savior now?​

Where is your savior now?​

Hidden inside sheol, Satan, and bloody urine. That's why the path out of our dismay is the road less taken. "Is it in you" (Gatorade).



John

 

[Viker]

Where is the son?​

To light the way​

Along the path​

Of our dismay​

If you mix a drop of black ink in a pitcher of pure water, the water will be stained. If you mix a drop of pure water in a pitcher of black ink, it will disappear. If you drop a crucifix in a pitcher of urine, it becomes living water, fit to be poured over ice and served to those seeking a path out of the dismay, the fire and brimstone, of hell itself.

Where is your savior now?​

Where is your savior now?​

Where is your savior now?​

Hidden inside sheol, Satan, and bloody urine. That's why the path out our dismay is the road less taken. "Is it in you" (Gatorade).



John

I'd highly recommend against drinking urine, even if it's had a crucifix in it.

 

[John D. Brey]

I'd highly recommend against drinking urine, even if it's had a crucifix in it.

It's what's coming out of the wounds on the one wounded on the crucifix that, more than purifying the urine, transforms it into the waters of everlasting life (John 6:53).



John

 

[PureX]

This artwork is interesting in that it is on the one hand a very overt and powerful statement, and yet on the other hand a very vague one. And it has fascinated a lot pf people over the years for that reason.

We tend to look at art, and especially at modern art, as the physical record of the active decisions that created it. And in this way it both records and re-expresses representationally what the artist was thinking and feeling as he/she made the artwork. And this particular artwork is all the more-so as it is a photograph of a crucifix placed in a beaker of urine (as indicated by the title). And photos are themselves visual records of events in time and place. So that what we are seeing before us is something that someone DID. It is the record of a deliberately disrespectful act.

But we are not being told (or shown) by the artwork left to us why someone perpetrated this disrespectful act. Were they expressing their own disgust with the whole idea of Christ's gift of salvation to us? Or were they expressing how they are seeing the world and the people around them disregarding and disrespecting the idea of Christ's gift of salvation to us? Is it a rejection? Or a warning about rejection? The artwork does not say. It just stands before us, stark and silent. In fact the object itself is not even there. Only a photographic record of it is there, before us.

And interestingly, had the artist explained it for us ... resolved this dilemma within the artwork, itself, it would not likely be remembered or talked about all these years later. Because it's what it is eluding to, yet not saying, that keeps it alive and significant in our minds.

 

[John D. Brey]

****christ is a decent song from Fear Factory's album Demanufacture (arguably their best album).

Cool album cover. Too bad Johnny Cash is dead. His rendition would be ******.



John

 

[Elihoenai]

Where Jung's collective unconscious is in the crosshairs of the examination of archetypal signs and symbols, urinating on the cross isn't merely some garden variety profane act, a silly slight of the cross or the one on it. On the contrary, it's part and parcel of a syzygy in the soul of the pisser, which on the macro-scale is a syzygy situated in the collective unconscious of the human race. This syzygy, or union of opposites, is a fundamental, even foundational, element of the most serious strains of Jewish kabbalah.

Functioning at several levels, this ritual process is at once an integration (within the worshiper) of the opposites of life and death, a unification (for God's sake) of the Trees of Life and Death, and a human attachment to the divine Tree of Death for the sake of renewed life.​

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Professor Michael Fishbane, The Kiss of God, p. 108.​

In Jewish mysticism, the tree of life, and the tree of death, grow from the same root. The latter is the outer, or fore, skene, behind which the tree of life exists. One has to remove the fore skene that's the tree of death (the prepuce of the tree of life), before they can partake (metzitzah) of the tree of life. In the same vein we have John 3:14 speaking of a rod of life hidden beneath Satan the serpent. And this Gospel syzygy isn't profane, since two verses latter we get the salvific result that flows from this demonic union of Satan and Christ: For God so loved the world that . . ..

Serrano's **** Christ mimics the union of the bronze-serpent and Moses' rod of life, ala Nehushtan. The bronze-serpent represents Satan, while Serrano's urine represents Satan. In Hebrew, "Satan" is שטן (shin-tet-nun), while "urine" or "pissing," is שתן (shin-tav-nun). Not only do the tet and the tav transliterate as the letter T (so that both words transliterate "Satan"), but no less a scholar than Rabbi Samson Hirsch tells us that phonetic similarities are etymologically unifying. Satan and urine share etymological similarity such that so to do Nehushtan and **** Christ.

In Hebrew there's direct and real relationship between "bronze" נחשת (nun-chet-shin-tav), and "serpent" נחש (nun-chet-shin), since the latter is the former without the tav-suffix. The same holds true for "Satan" and "urine," making Serrano's **** Christ a post-first-century manifestation of the same archetype as Nehushtan the bronze-serpent.

Israel was told that if they would but look up at the bronze-serpent in faith, they would be healed. The same is true of Serrano's **** Christ, since Nehushtan and **** Christ represent the same thing, a sygyzy, or union of utter opposites, worn between the udders of a certain biped mammal.




John

1 Kings 21:21

21 Behold, I will bring evil upon thee, and will take away thy posterity, and will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel,


The Union of Opposites is where the Mystery of Elohim/God is Discovered. What you have described above is the Old Covenant and New Covenant Relationship. Pissing on the Cross is the Act of Refusing, for Urine is Refuse. What has been Refused has Acknowledged the Curse Obtained the Blessing in the Cross/Shift/Move.


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