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Set as the Human Mind

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I've been thinking about Forms and how they relate to our physical world. It's obvious that Forms and Matter are closely related, I mean without different colors of red there would be no Redness, and without Redness no imperfect shades of red. Likewise, when the physical self comes into being, the higher self comes into being.

What if Set came into being with the advent of consciousness, whether ours, a previous species, or life somewhere else? I mean that would be very comparable to Set randomly tearing his way into the universe and causing a bunch of confusion. If Set really is the Form of independent, higher consciousness then I feel this would make perfect sense. It also clearly shows why Set is a realistic belief even simply through logic, and why Set is a necessary being.
 

Onyx

Active Member
Premium Member
I do view Set as a basic principle, but one that may be better understood by not trying to understand. How can something inherently irrational be explained through rational logic? The gift of self-awareness shouldn't become a curse.
 

Sutekh

Priest of Odin
Premium Member
The gift of self-awareness shouldn't become a curse.
I may not fully agree I regard the gift of self awareness to be a permanent gift within. Ones self awareness may change within, however you will still have and sense the gift within your very self.
 

Ahanit

Active Member
For Me Set is an own Energetic Existance, like all aware beings, he can never be fully understand.... So why try ;)
His relation to our world are we. All those trying to study themselve, who try to change and to transform. We need him, his energy to guide and to guard us when we try to go into the unconscious parts.
Our try to understand, to Study disturbs the veils between the worlds, what can be registered by sensible beings, so we are those who bring the confusion in his name, trying to follow him :)
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
I look upon Set as the First Principle or First Form of Self-Aware Being. Set is the Father of the human mind and the origin of all self-aware life forms within this Universe. Just as the blood of our ancestors flows through our veins, so to does the Essence of That which is Set burn deep within the core of our metaphysical being, like an energizing life force. This is the unbreakable Bond between the Prince of Darkness and the human race.

I don't think its possible to fully understand the Mind of Set, nor is it necessary. As a Setian I seek after his knowledge and undefiled wisdom which instructs and guides me in my life Quest to Understand my own mind, to uncover the Truth of my own being, and to become its absolute and complete manifestation = "Setamorphosis". ;)

Xeper.
 
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Sutekh

Priest of Odin
Premium Member
I know very little about Set. Is this Wiki article an accurate representation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Set

I would recommend you to read several books on the occult if you are curious about the Temple of Set or that of Set. The books that I could recommend would be Seth God of confusion which goes into the characteristics and histories of Set and Egypt, I would also recommend Lords of the Left Hand Path by Stephen E. Flowers. I should warn you Flowers tends to make some things complicated in the book when he discusses the Cos and the Tos. I would also recommend Michael W. Fords Necrominon Sethanic Magick which explains the histories of the Egyptian deities or archetypes in particular. I would recommend the Mysteries of the Temple of Set which explains some of the Temples views and beliefs.
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
"Setamorphosis" is a term coined by Dr. Michael Aquino, sometimes used by Setians basically to describe the results of the process of Xeper and Remanifestation. The raising of ourselves, through the Great Work, beyond the sum of our parts and becoming transformed like Set in his Form of Khepera, the Self-Created god.
 
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Onyx

Active Member
Premium Member
I've been thinking about Forms and how they relate to our physical world. It's obvious that Forms and Matter are closely related, I mean without different colors of red there would be no Redness, and without Redness no imperfect shades of red. Likewise, when the physical self comes into being, the higher self comes into being.

What if Set came into being with the advent of consciousness, whether ours, a previous species, or life somewhere else? I mean that would be very comparable to Set randomly tearing his way into the universe and causing a bunch of confusion. If Set really is the Form of independent, higher consciousness then I feel this would make perfect sense. It also clearly shows why Set is a realistic belief even simply through logic, and why Set is a necessary being.

I think I misunderstood the point of the original post. I can see how Set could exist as an "ideal consciousness" outside of the space-time continuum - a "Platonic Form". Set doesn't have to be fully understood for someone to understand that much.

As an analogy, no matter how many times we try to draw a pentagram, a perfect representation is impossible to create. How closely we are able to approach the ideal depends on the amount of time and effort involved. The fact that there is an ideal to copy from means that the ideal is just as real as the copy. My mind may only be a rough approximation of Set's, but without the existence of that Form, my own consciousness wouldn't be possible.

I initially rejected Emergent Dualism, but now I'm wondering if through evolution human physiology began to approximate the mind of Set enough to become aware of his Form. Set, being an ideal consciousness, could then use the opportunity to influence the minds of humans. The difference between Set and say, the Form of a Circle, is that by definition Set is self-aware, while a circle is not.

An octagon is a very rough approximation of a circle. Likewise, if the minds of animals could be considered very rough approximations of the mind of Set, humans would be that much closer to the ideal. And if nature is limited in its ability to approximate an ideal consciousness, then Set would indeed have to "tear his way in" in order to help us work towards a more perfect realization of self-awareness.

Edit: fixed minor grammatical errors.
 
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1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I think I misunderstood the point of the original post. I can see how Set could exist as an "ideal consciousness" outside of the space-time continuum - a "Platonic Form". Set doesn't have to be fully understood to understand that much.

As an analogy, no matter how many times we try to draw a pentagram, a perfect representation is impossible to create. How close we approach the ideal depends on the amount of time and effort involved. The fact that there is an ideal to copy from means that the ideal is just as real as the copy. My mind may only be a rough approximation of Set's, but without the existence of that Form, my own consciousness wouldn't be possible.

I initially rejected Emergent Dualism, but now I'm wondering if through evolution human physiology began to approximate the mind of Set enough to become aware of his Form. Set, being an ideal consciousness, could then use the opportunity to influence the minds of humans. The difference between Set and say, the Form of a Circle, is that by definition Set is self-aware, while a circle is not.

An octagon is a very rough approximation of a circle. Likewise, if the minds of animals could be considered very rough approximations of the mind of Set, humans would be that much closer to the ideal. And if nature is limited in it's ability to approximate an ideal consciousness, then Set would indeed have to "tear his way in" in order to help us work towards a more perfect realization of self-awareness.

I'm going to read this several times.
 
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