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Setting an example

amorphous_constellation

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I am on the left, I don't like guns. That said, we are not an urban country in all places. In my state, you can drive for miles and miles in pitch black darkness through unincorporated towns with no police stations. Some places you live, there wild animals that sometimes eat you. If I had a farm out there, I would most likely be a gun owner. I don't know if it's like that in a lot of places europe, thought I read that the uk for example is one of the most dense countries in the urban sense. Well, we're not really quite like that here. That said, I don't like guns and we have a lot of stupid urban violence here that's pretty bad
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Why not, democracy. If a group/country through their votes or representatives choose to restrict guns, not my business to tell them how to enact their laws.

Quite. But what kind of world would it be? I know this is just conjecture, but it seems to me that the USA has so many more guns because some other fellow has them - what a dumb basis for choices or arms laws. That is, I must protect myself because someone else is likely to threaten me with a firearm. Not so many guns in circulation - not so many of such threats.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
That's an excellent evaluation of the data. But it will have no effect whatever on the people who support the, "more guns, less regulation" position. Because for them, the reality of all this gun violence only drives them to want more guns.

I believe this to be so. And it is alarmingly stupid - not necessarily individual choices, but the whole process.
 
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Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I am on the left, I don't like guns. That said, we are not an urban country in all places. In my state, you can drive for miles and miles in pitch black darkness through unincorporated towns with no police stations. Some places you live, there wild animals that sometimes eat you. If I had a farm out there, I would most likely be a gun owner. I don't know if it's like that in a lot of places europe, thought I read that the uk for example is one of the most dense countries in the urban sense. Well, we're not really quite like that here. That said, I don't like guns and we have a lot of stupid urban violence here that's pretty bad

Yes, there are circumstances that often dictate differences, and I realise why the USA might have gone down this path. I suspect that the numbers of firearms in other countries often relates to hunting or sporting usage, not so in the USA as much, given the numbers of handguns and semi-automatic weapons.
 
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