Sex before marrige opinions

[Katzpur]

Katzpur: What about with gays who currently can't get married, or may never be able to get married?

My personal opinion is that they should remain celibate, as should heterosexual individuals who are not married. However, I would like to suggest that anybody who feels inclined to jump down my throat over this statement (I'm not suggesting that you would, Jensa), take a look at any of the threads anywhere on this forum that deal with homosexuality. I almost never have anything to say on the topic because I don't really think other people's sexual preferences are any of my business. I personally see relatively little difference (in seriousness) between homosexual sex and heterosexual sex outside of marriage. I think they're both wrong, but since I am not personally affected by the decisions of other people in this respect, I tend to steer clear of judging them.

 

[Lintu]

I think it's fine and probably a good idea in the long run. No moral qualms whatsoever.

 

[Steve]

Sex is for marriage, i belive this because i belive in the God of the Bible who created sex and marriage to go together. I honestly wish i could say i abstained until marriage. Sex is a wonderful thing created by God, it should not to be abused - the results of its abuse can be seen throughout much of the world (children brought up fatherless/motherless, abortion, STD's, sex adictions, pornography etc)

Jesus put it all into perspective when he condemed even lust.

But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:28

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What about with gays who currently can't get married, or may never be able to get married?

God made marriage for male and female, as Jesus makes clear in the following..

"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate." Matthew 19:4-6

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If gay marriage it is outside the bounds God set up for marriage then how can they expect God to honor it? and besides

'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. Leviticus 18:22
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[Jaymes]

I don't care if your God honors my marriage or not. I just want the state to recognize that I have a spouse and have the same rights as any other married couple.

Edit: Considering I'm lesbian, that verse is rather accurate... I do find lying with men as I would lie with a woman detestable!

 

[KirbyFan101]

Wow! I can't believe I'm the only one so far to feel the way I do, but I believe that sex outside of marriage is wrong. Always.

Why do you feel sex before marriage is wrong?

As a lifelong celibate, if I didn't have sex before marriage I'd never have sex at all!

Lifelong celibate! Why? How!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

if I didn't have sex before marriage I'd never have sex at all!

Id fit in that catagory, but there are no females that like looking at me. I guess I look to intemidating.

 

[standing_on_one_foot]

I think sex should be between people in a commited (marriage-like, if you will) relationship. This may or may not involve actual marriage, but I do think that sex purely for its own sake isn't right. There are a lot of worse things a person could do, but it's certainly not something I'd want.

 

[painted wolf]

I would be hypocrit if I said no...
Sex isn't a big deal.. if the persons involved are on the same page and are carefull then no worries.

Sex shouldn't be the focus of a healthy relationship any more than a person should avoid it in a healthy relationship. IMHO

wa:do

 

[Feathers in Hair]

protection

Bad visual! Bad visual! *runs screaming from free-association of Obi-Wan and Darth Vader and this thread*

And good advice, Steve, thank you! *looks around for a fellow female to lie with*

 

[Prophet Rashad]

Sex is for marriage, i belive this because i belive in the God of the Bible who created sex and marriage to go together. I honestly wish i could say i abstained until marriage. Sex is a wonderful thing created by God, it should not to be abused - the results of its abuse can be seen throughout much of the world (children brought up fatherless/motherless, abortion, STD's, sex adictions, pornography etc)

Jesus put it all into perspective when he condemed even lust.

But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:28

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God made marriage for male and female, as Jesus makes clear in the following..

"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate." Matthew 19:4-6

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If gay marriage it is outside the bounds God set up for marriage then how can they expect God to honor it? and besides

'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. Leviticus 18:22
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I could not agree with you more Sex is for Marriage omly but I would be a hypocrite if I said I waited. But at the time I did not know any better so youthful mistakes. But sex is for a married couple Man and Woman

 

[Feathers in Hair]

++MOD POST++

Please remember that this is a discussion thread, and not for debate. If you'd like to argue that your religion teaches something about sex and it being 'right' or 'wrong', please do so in the 'debate' area.

 

[turk179]

Bad visual! Bad visual! *runs screaming from free-association of Obi-Wan and Darth Vader and this thread*

And good advice, Steve, thank you! *looks around for a fellow female to lie with*

Stop it! Your killin' me! Can't breath! Loosing con....

Not only do I think it is okay to have sex before marriage I beleive it wise to live with a person for a while before marriage. Best to see how you REALLY work with a person before dragging legalities into it and find out later it doesn't work.

I married my first husband before ever living with him and regret it immensly. Had I known then what I know now I never would have married him and had to have undergone the torment and abuse I did.

As for sex, as it is an intregal part of a relationship (for the most part) I think it best to experience that as well. It is supposed to be the ultimate expression of love. It better feel that way too.

Though I am a BIG opponent of underage sex...in any form. Even with those the same age. Children need not have children or take the risk to put themselves in that situation. A lot of adults aren't ready for the consequences of sex, let alone children. And why rush? Why not enjoy the youth while you can and not pressure oneself to do something that they may look back on in later years and think "I SO wasn't ready"? Those who are older who had sex when they were young, can you really say it was the right thing to do NOW? Or do you regret the choices you made and wish you would have waited a bit longer?

I agree 100%

I'm a firm believer in 'try before you buy'.

That would be the short version of why I agree.:biglaugh:

 

[Katzpur]

Why do you feel sex before marriage is wrong?

I believe that the primary purpose of sex is procreation. In my opinion, this is why our Creator give us such strong sexual urges in the first place. It wasn't His purpose to come up with a source of entertainment for us. He made it pleasurable so that we would actually want to engage in it. (Please note: I am not saying that a man and a woman should abstain from having sex unless they are trying to conceive. I hope nobody will bother accusing me of that.)

I see sex as the means by which God allows a man and a woman to participate in one of the greatest miracles He has ever performed: that of creating new life. Life, I believe, is so sacred that the process by which it is initiated should be sacred as well. When a child is conceived, a simple biological process takes place in which a single cell divides, once, twice, three times and, ultimately millions and millions of times. Organs develop, arms and legs, tiny eyes, ears, noses and mouths are formed, and we say that life is created. But that child isn’t really a living soul until the real Creator of life infuses that little body with a spirit. In other words, men and women don’t create life – God does. But, men and women do have the ability to put the process into motion. The question is: Do they have the right to take that first step without having first been given the divine approval to do so? I don't believe they do.

It might be argued that sex doesn't necessarily need to result in conception. And that's correct. But, I see the potential for procreation, and the concept that God has given human beings the right to be as co-creators of life as being so sacred that whether a child results or not makes no difference. The act is the same regardless.

Lifelong celibate! Why? How!

I guess this wasn't addressed to me. I'm going to comment anyway (hope you don't mind).

Lifelong celibate? Yes. It's certain an option.

Why? I think I've already explained that.

How? Self-control. No, I haven't been there. Haven't done that. I'm heterosexual and married, so I can't say I know what it would be life to remain celibate throughout my entire life. I suspect it would be difficult. Lots of things in life are difficult. But, if I were either an unmarried heterosexual or a homosexual, that would be my goal. People do abstain and somehow manage to live fulfilling lives. I don't know that I can say a lot beyond what I've already said. As I pointed out initially, it's not my intention to condemn anyone. I just thought I'd respond to the thread, that's all.

 

[Katzpur]

I don't care if your God honors my marriage or not. I just want the state to recognize that I have a spouse and have the same rights as any other married couple.

I can understand your point of view, and I agree with it. I see no reason why you and your partner should not have certain legal rights.

 

[Valjean]

Why do you feel sex before marriage is wrong?


Lifelong celibate! Why? How!

LOL! I swear -- in a hundred years English will have a vocabulary of only a thousand words!

Celibacy is the state of being unmarried, not an abstention from sex. Abstaining from sex is chastity.

When you see "celibacy" in the Bible or in church writings it retains its original meaning -- being unmarried. Only recently have people begun extending that meaning to include chastity.

This general trend is spreading throughout the language: house/home, healthy/healthful, &c. Soon we'll be communicating entirely in grunts.

 

[michel]

LOL! I swear -- in a hundred years English will have a vocabulary of only a thousand words!

Celibacy is the state of being unmarried, not an abstention from sex. Abstaining from sex is chastity.

When you see "celibacy" in the Bible or in church writings it retains its original meaning -- being unmarried. Only recently have people begun extending that meaning to include chastity.

This general trend is spreading throughout the language: house/home, healthy/healthful, &c. Soon we'll be communicating entirely in grunts.

Isn't that absurd ? Of course, you are completely right.........

 

[Lintu]

Sex is for marriage, i belive this because i belive in the God of the Bible who created sex and marriage to go together. I honestly wish i could say i abstained until marriage. Sex is a wonderful thing created by God, it should not to be abused - the results of its abuse can be seen throughout much of the world (children brought up fatherless/motherless, abortion, STD's, sex adictions, pornography etc)

But being married while having sex does not solve any of those. A woman can be married to a husband who leaves her when she gets pregnant. Married women have abortions. Married people can contract STDs. Sex addictions can occur during marriage. I don't see the problem with pornography so I won't touch that one. My point is, marriage doesn't solve any of that stuff.

 

[Draka]

But being married while having sex does not solve any of those. A woman can be married to a husband who leaves her when she gets pregnant. Married women have abortions. Married people can contract STDs. Sex addictions can occur during marriage. I don't see the problem with pornography so I won't touch that one. My point is, marriage doesn't solve any of that stuff.

Very good points Lintu...frubals to you :clap

 

[Original Freak]

For those that believe sex is for marriage I ask this...

If someone wants to get married, but can't find that person they feel they want to be married to, or someone is one of those lonely people who can't seem to get into a realeationship and they want to ... do you think these people should be forced into a life of celebacy simply because they can't find a life long mate?

 

[DeepShadow]

I don't think they should be forced, no. Celibacy should always be a choice.

I do think they would be happier if they remained celibate until they found someone.