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Sex/Gender

Evangelicalhumanist

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Ignatius A said:
Well it's the word gay "marriage" proponents used for what they claim was a marriage. Gay "marriage" is a marriage like a bicycle is a motorcycle. If you think your bicycle is a motorcycle and I say to you, go get your bicycle, you wouldnt know what I was referring to. I would have to use the word "motorcycle" even though it's actually a bicycle.
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There you are -- fully exposed. But I'm sorry to tell you that marriage of same-sex and different-sex couples are regarded by law as the same in the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Netherlands --- in fact, here's the list:
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Ignatius A said:
Thats irrelevant. Love isn't a requirement for marriage. Who one lives isn't an argument. Two straight men wouldn't have been able to get married either their sexual preference orientation or whatever the word is these days, wouldn't be relevant only their sex mattered
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What's irrelevant? I asked you a question.

It's relevant to the vast majority of people getting married in North America who are doing it because they love each other and want to share a life and/or a family together.
 
Secret Chief

Secret Chief

Very strong language
Ignatius A said:
Well it's the word gay "marriage" proponents used for what they claim was a marriage. Gay "marriage" is a marriage like a bicycle is a motorcycle. If you think your bicycle is a motorcycle and I say to you, go get your bicycle, you wouldnt know what I was referring to. I would have to use the word "motorcycle" even though it's actually a bicycle.
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When I don't know what a word means I go to a reputable dictionary to find out, such as the Cambridge Dictionary. That way I dodge any bigotry. You are not the only one that can spot bull****.

"a legally accepted relationship between two people in which they live together, or the official ceremony that results in this"
- marriage
 
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Ignatius A

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Evangelicalhumanist said:
There you are -- fully exposed. But I'm sorry to tell you that marriage of same-sex and different-sex couples are regarded by law as the same in the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Netherlands --- in fact, here's the list:
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Oh yes of course. Slavery was oncce legal too l. Hiding behind the law is not an argument.
 
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Ignatius A

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SkepticThinker said:
That wouldn't be happening because both are the same thing - marriages.
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But they arent. You think they are that's why you think your bicycle is not motorcycle
Secret Chief said:
When I don't know what a word means I go to a reputable dictionary to find out, such as the Cambridge Dictionary. That way I dodge any bigotry. You are not the only one that can spot bull****.

"a legally accepted relationship between two people in which they live together, or the official ceremony that results in this"

- marriage
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You're angry brah
 
We Never Know

We Never Know

No Slack
SkepticThinker said:
The last one you gave me was a pair of foxes or something.
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The cows were there too. You just clicked on the wrong one. The cows are the other attachment. See picture and red cicle

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Evangelicalhumanist

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Ignatius A said:
Oh yes of course. Slavery was oncce legal too l. Hiding behind the law is not an argument.
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Neither is hiding behind God, religion or plain prejudice. You want the laws changed, make your case. Your personal say-so isn't going to go far in those 36 countries I listed. I strongly doubt they'd see you as an authority.
 
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Ignatius A

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Evangelicalhumanist said:
Neither is hiding behind God, religion or plain prejudice. You want the laws changed, make your case. Your personal say-so isn't going to go far in those 36 countries I listed. I strongly doubt they'd see you as an authority.
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So you'd be ok with slavery as long as it was legal. Good to know.
 
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Kfox

Well-Known Member
Valjean said:
Male/female anatomical sex, or gender identity? Two different things.
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When you separate gender from sexual biology, that makes gender meaningless.
Valjean said:
Some things are definitively different, others, like sexual orientation, don't have clearly identifiable markers. Psychological preferences like gender identification don't yet have identifiable neural markers. We rely on the individual historians' claims.
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My point was; they are asking for a heck of a lot more than fair treatment and respect.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Ignatius A said:
Legal doesnt make something right.
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Who said that?

This was in response to:

You: "Oh yes of course. Slavery was oncce legal too l. Hiding behind the law is not an argument."

Me: "Yes, it used to be illegal for gay couples to marry, then all those countries on that list changed their laws, and now it's legal.
Amazing."
 
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