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Sexuality and Choice...
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rojse
RF Addict
I did create this thread:
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/general-religious-debates/88100-worth-relationship.html
I had hoped some of our more fervent respondents on this thread would clarify their positions, because I am sure that they would like their positions better-understood.
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/general-religious-debates/88100-worth-relationship.html
I had hoped some of our more fervent respondents on this thread would clarify their positions, because I am sure that they would like their positions better-understood.
I started this one to specifically deal with the marriage discussion here.
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/general-religious-debates/88158-marriage-sexuality.html
Anyway, would be interesting to see the people with a more static and traditional view on relationships to post in our threads.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
There have been plenty of documented cases of homosexuality in many species.
The article didn't say heterosexual marriage either. But really, the survival of the human race, possibly the entire planet, may depend on homosexuals and infertile couples as a way to keep the population from getting too large. The planet is overpopulated enough as it is. If everyone was heterosexual and fertile, things would be worse.
madhatter85
Transhumanist
This can also be explained by genetic defects/flaws.
generations are becoming accepting of all forms of sexuality. My daughter goes to college in the city and became friends with a female student who sits next to her in one class who is transgender. The point is I can see my daughter struggling with what her religion has taught her and her compassion towards the rights of all people. Younger people are so much more tolerant. This is a good thing, right....
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Well, it is theorized to be genetic, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a flaw.
madhatter85
Transhumanist
Again, please refer to http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...ble-explanations-homosexuality-explained.html on why it cannot be an evolutionary response, and why it is a flaw or defect in genetic code. It applies to animals as well.
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
Yes you have awkoen the stance of the homosexually challenged
How dare you!
Shirt lifters of the world....unite and take over
(a Brit joke...for all ye wee americans)
............
I was a good kid
I wouldn't do you no harm
I was a nice kid
With a nice paper round
Forgive me any pain
I may have brung to you
With God's help I know
I'll always be near to you
But Jesus hurt me
When he deserted me, but
I have forgiven Jesus
For all the desire
He placed in me when there's nothing I can do
With this desire
I was a good kid
Through hail and snow I'd go
Just to moon you
I carried my heart in my hand
Do you understand?
Do you understand?
But Jesus hurt me
When he deserted me, but
I have forgiven Jesus
For all of the love
He placed in me
When there's no-one I can turn to with this love
Monday - humiliation
Tuesday - suffocation
Wednesday - condescension
Thursday - is pathetic
By Friday life has killed me
By Friday life has killed me
(Oh pretty one, Oh pretty one)
Why did you give me
So much desire?
When there is nowhere I can go
To offload this desire
And why did you give me
So much love
In a loveless world
When there's no one I can turn to
To unlock all this love
And why did you stick me in
Self-deprecating bones and skin
Jesus - do you hate me?
Why did you stick me in
Self-deprecating bones and skin
Do you hate me? do you hate me?
Do you hate me? do you hate me?
Do you hate me?
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
1. I don't I fully embrace the idea that it is nature AND nurture, not one or the other
2. Some people like to be rebels, distant from society, outcasts,,,,
3. a lot
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
there are plenty of hetero sexual choices that would make people cringe and cause a person to be a social outcast.....
so really although this thread is geared at homosexuality...it isnt just them considerign the questions...
I'd say more, but it is not the eros section
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
I can barely keep up with you! and thanks for making us cry with those Morrissey lyrics.
thanks, I think
Morrissey is a well known gay icon....
and well you can see he doesn't hate Jesus
plus I love that song/album
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
As can the ability to reason like madhatter.
ThereIsNoSpoon
Active Member
I read that. I wonder why you come to the conclusion that it has to be a "flaw". i do not see any such conclusion. What i rather see is that your argument is not conclusive and a bit shortcomming.
As a side note: If you consider homosexuality a genetic flaw then you should realize that actually anything in genetic code could be considered one
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Obviously to everyone but madhatter, words like "flaw" and "abnormal" are purely subjective. Remember that he was unable to define them.
Actually he did define "abnormal" as something unusual and different from what was "normal" (in which case "normal" is either what the majority is or what the norms are). But I never understood what was so inheritly negative about it.
Commoner
Headache
Apart from madhatter's intentional malicious use of loaded wording.
Madhatter walks into a bar. He orders a root beer and starts sipping it slowly. A few minutes later he glances over his shoulder and sees a 6'7'', 300 pound biker sitting in the corner of the bar, admiring his new hunting knife. Feeling a little tipsy from the root beer, he stumbles over to the angry looking Iron Maiden fan and exclaims: "Wow, you're one abnormal fella', ain't ya'? Must be a genetic flaw, huh!?"
I'm sure they became great friends after that.
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Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Until someone pointed out that would make red hair and left-handedness abnormal, when he reverted to defining abnormal as meaning gay, which would of course make it circular and thereby undefined.