Sharia Law in Ireland

[monta]

I was reading this article and while I was quite relieved to find that most Muslims were happy in Ireland, I have to admit that seeing a number of the Muslim community would prefer to see Ireland governed by Sharia Law gave me pause.

Is it reasonable to expect a non Muslim country to adopt Sharia Law ?

http://www.independent.ie/national-...majority-very-happy-here-says-poll-65184.html

 

[Father Heathen]

No. When someone migrates to a new country they should respect the local culture and laws. If they want Sharia then they should relocate.

 

[Phasmid]

Is it reasonable to expect a non Muslim country to adopt Sharia Law ?

No. If they wish to live in a country without Sharia, then they should comply with the laws of that country. If they are unhappy with the established law, then they should probably consider staying where they are.

 

[TheKnight]

I think no. Unless the entire people of Ireland accept Sharia law, then it would be wrong to force religious laws on them. Religious laws shouldn't be enforced legally unless the population under those laws agrees to it.

 

[England my lionheart]

I say no and agree with all the above and would add that IMO Sharia law anywhere belongs in the bin along with those who administer it.

 

[Enlighten]

No, they knew the laws in Ireland when they moved so they should adhere to them, if they don't like it then they should go to a country where this law exists already.

 

[cottage]

I was reading this article and while I was quite relieved to find that most Muslims were happy in Ireland, I have to admit that seeing a number of the Muslim community would prefer to see Ireland governed by Sharia Law gave me pause.

Is it reasonable to expect a non Muslim country to adopt Sharia Law ?

Muslims give their blessing: Vast majority very happy here, says poll - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

The Republic of Ireland is already a theocracy. I don't think there is room for another.

 

[keithnurse]

The Republic of Ireland is already a theocracy. I don't think there is room for another.

Ireland is a republic with no official state religion. The influence the Catholic church has has declined to the point that divorce is legal and homosexuality is legal also.

 

[Storm]

I was reading this article and while I was quite relieved to find that most Muslims were happy in Ireland, I have to admit that seeing a number of the Muslim community would prefer to see Ireland governed by Sharia Law gave me pause.

Is it reasonable to expect a non Muslim country to adopt Sharia Law ?

Muslims give their blessing: Vast majority very happy here, says poll - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

I'd say it depends on the context.

I don't think it's unreasonable for them to ask for something similar to the British system, where civil cases which are to be settled by mutually agreed upon arbiters canuse Sharia with all parties' consent.

However, in skimming the article, it mentions that some Muslims would like to see Ireland as an Islamic state. That's completely insane, and I agree with other posters that if you want to live in an Islamic nation, you shouldn't immigrate to a Western one.

 

[cottage]

Ireland is a republic with no official state religion. The influence the Catholic church has has declined to the point that divorce is legal and homosexuality is legal also.

Indeed! And Article 44 of the amended 1937 Constitution (2.2) proclaims that the State 'guarantees not to endow any religion', and (2.1) allows freedom of conscience and the right to practice any religious faith.

However, (1) is explicit: 'The State acknowledges that the homage of public worship is due to Almighty God. It shall hold His Name in reverence, and shall respect and honour religion.'

 

[linwood]

I don't think it's unreasonable for them to ask for something similar to the British system, where civil cases which are to be settled by mutually agreed upon arbiters canuse Sharia with all parties' consent.

Actually I think the British system is completely insane.

Exactly what constitutes "mutual consent" when regarding a Muslim woman?

No country should have two separate legal systems criminal or civil.
It`s a mockery of justice.

 

[Sunstone]

Is it reasonable to expect a non Muslim country to adopt Sharia Law ?

Only if it's reasonable to expect a Muslim country to adopt Western legal traditions.

 

[Storm]

Actually I think the British system is completely insane.

Exactly what constitutes "mutual consent" when regarding a Muslim woman?

No country should have to separate legal systems criminal or civil.
It`s a mockery of justice.

Is the British institution of Sharia-based arbitration any worse than the similar system for Jews? Are either or both of those systems any worse than the secular arbiters? If so, why?

 

[linwood]

Is the British institution of Sharia-based arbitration any worse than the similar system for Jews? Are either or both of those systems any worse than the secular arbiters? If so, why?

No worse than any system put up by any self serving entity.

There is far too much room for oppression of those who don`t hold the power within the dogmatic systems these courts are spawned from.

Islam teaches that women are inferior and must submit to men.

Equity is not possible within such a system.

 

[England my lionheart]

Actually I think the British system is completely insane.

Exactly what constitutes "mutual consent" when regarding a Muslim woman?

No country should have to separate legal systems criminal or civil.
It`s a mockery of justice.

I agree,the legal system should be the same for all,criminal or civil

 

[Storm]

But if private arbitration is a legal option, as it is in Britain, why shouldn't religious options be included in that?

Personally, I don't think the system is ideal, everyone should just go through the courts. But if they're going to have the option, as they do, make it inclusive.

 

[England my lionheart]

But if private arbitration is a legal option, as it is in Britain, why shouldn't religious options be included in that?

Personally, I don't think the system is ideal, everyone should just go through the courts. But if they're going to have the option, as they do, make it inclusive.

I don't think religion and law are compatible whether its Muslim or Jewish,if one law is good enough for the majority it should be good enough for them.

 

[Storm]

So, you should be allowed to pick whomever you want to settle your case, by whatever standards, unless they're religious? That hardly seems fair.

 

[TheKnight]

I don't think religion and law are compatible whether its Muslim or Jewish,if one law is good enough for the majority it should be good enough for them.

Not allowing them to express their religious legal concerns will on prompt them to preform such religious courts illegally. It doesn't make sense to stop two people from using a religious arbiter and religious law in settling their personal dispute if they both agree to do so.

 

[Father Heathen]

I say no and agree with all the above and would add that IMO Sharia law anywhere belongs in the bin along with those who administer it.

Right. Keep the cavemen antics in the cave instead of trying to pull the civilized world into darkness.