Sharia Law, what is it and who practices it?

[kai]

There is not a great deal to be interpreted as the bulk of Sharia is decided. What would need interpretation is laws relevant to things which have newly arised.

There is no Islamic countries today as that would be somewhere were Sharia is practised, there are only Muslim majority countries. Sharia is a complete system revealed by Allah and His Messenger and so you cannot accept part of it and reject another part - to do so is to imply that you know better than Allah.
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There is agreement by Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah that any ruler or government in the Islamic lands who rules by other than the Sharia is therefore an apostate and must be fought.

Does the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah You mention have anything to do with Suleman Keeler?

 

[gnostic]

So if a person, say a boy about 14, only steal food to eat, and is caught 3 times, he would lost his hand?

Do the Sharia have age limit before cutting off their hand?

 

[AbuKhalid]

Does the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah You mention have anything to do with Suleman Keeler?

No it is the main body of Muslims, not a small group who goes by that name.

Sunni Islam is the largest denomination of Islam. Sunni Islam is also referred to as Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamā‘ah (Arabic: أهل السنة والجماعة‎ "people of the example (of Muhammad) and the community") or Ahl as-Sunnah (Arabic: أهل السنة&#8206 for short. The word Sunni comes from the word Sunnah (Arabic: سنة&#8206, which means the words and actions[1] or example of the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
Sunni Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[AbuKhalid]

Hi Abu,this link should work Photo: Iran Tortures 8-Year-Old Boy - Lifestyle - Javno

Thanks. This certainly is terrible and nothing to do with Sharia. Sharia does not allow for one to make up the form of punishment such as seems to be the case here and the hudud would not be applied on minors.

 

[AbuKhalid]

So if a person, say a boy about 14, only steal food to eat, and is caught 3 times, he would lost his hand?

Do the Sharia have age limit before cutting off their hand?

As I said it wouldn't be applied to minors. Also there would need to be four reliable witnesses in each instance and the person would not receive the punishment if the theft was out of necessity rather than simply greed.

 

[gnostic]

The only people I think who deserve to have something cut off are rapists and child molesters. These are the people who should have their genitals and hands cut off. Perhaps have their eyes gouged out too.

An adult man who marry a girl under the age of sixteen should be considered a sex offender, and a rapist. It does matter if the underage girl is in love with him or not. Parents, who married under-aged daughters off to adult male, also deserved to have their hands cut off too, because to me, they are nothing more than pimps.

 

[kai]

No it is the main body of Muslims, not a small group who goes by that name.

Sunni Islam is the largest denomination of Islam. Sunni Islam is also referred to as Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamā‘ah (Arabic: أهل السنة والجماعة‎ "people of the example (of Muhammad) and the community") or Ahl as-Sunnah (Arabic: أهل السنة&#8206 for short. The word Sunni comes from the word Sunnah (Arabic: سنة&#8206, which means the words and actions[1] or example of the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
Sunni Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

thank you

 

[AbuKhalid]

The only people I think who deserve to have something cut off are rapists and child molesters. These are the people who should have their genitals and hands cut off. Perhaps have their eyes gouged out too.

An adult man who marry a girl under the age of sixteen should be considered a sex offender, and a rapist. It does matter if the underage girl is in love with him or not. Parents, who married under-aged daughters off to adult male, also deserved to have their hands cut off too, because to me, they are nothing more than pimps.

Why 16? Is it because this is the accepted age where you live at this time? Where your ancestors all child molesters given that up to relatively recently people married much younger and only a century ago in parts of the US the age one could marry at was 12. Of course this was necessary as people diesd quite young in days gone by. Of course previous to this it was younger. Maybe those from Hawaii, Missouri, New Hampshire are still paedophiles as the age of marriage now for girls is under 16 in these states. Im sure you know that in New York state a girl can get married at 14 with judicial and parental consent. Paedophiles? Well you obviously think so. I personally don't.

 

[gnostic]

Because a girl shouldn't have duties and responsibility at that age. They should be able to finish school, and if need be go to university or find work, to learn their true potential.

I think that even at 18, both young women and men are far too young for marriage life or starting a new family.

And it is one thing for a girl to marry a boy at age 16, but it totally different if an adult.

So yes, I think all men who married girls under 16 to be nothing more than pedophiles.

And do you really think I care what happen a century ago?

About a century ago, girls still have trouble getting education and job. It is not the same now. Time has changed, and girls can now find their own goal and career, make their own choice, instead of parents or peers.

So yes, if you marry a girl under 16 now or 50 years ago, then you are a pedophile. A man should marry an adult instead of a child.

 

[England my lionheart]

Thanks. This certainly is terrible and nothing to do with Sharia. Sharia does not allow for one to make up the form of punishment such as seems to be the case here and the hudud would not be applied on minors.

Thanks Abukhalid,i'm glad this isn't the norm,Iran is a crazy place now so i guess this type of thing should'nt suprise us.

 

[AbuKhalid]

Because a girl shouldn't have duties and responsibility at that age. They should be able to finish school, and if need be go to university or find work, to learn their true potential.

I think that even at 18, both young women and men are far too young for marriage life or starting a new family.

And it is one thing for a girl to marry a boy at age 16, but it totally different if an adult.

So yes, I think all men who married girls under 16 to be nothing more than pedophiles.

And do you really think I care what happen a century ago?

About a century ago, girls still have trouble getting education and job. It is not the same now. Time has changed, and girls can now find their own goal and career, make their own choice, instead of parents or peers.

So yes, if you marry a girl under 16 now or 50 years ago, then you are a pedophile. A man should marry an adult instead of a child.

A paedophile is someone attracted to girls who have no reached puberty. In general I agree with your points however I just don't see how an age limit such as 16 is correct as all women and men are different. Most people are supposed to think this is wrong now because that is the what is the most commonly held view in the west at the moment. The wests morality is constantly changing and they expect others to change with them. I agree girls should still be at school but this is besides the issue as going to school or having a career is irrelevant in relation to them being able to become mothers.

Another thing which I often wonder (and maybe I am straying a little off topic here) is how can those who claim reject religion on the basis of science ignore what science tells us is the purpose of puberty?

 

[Alla Prima]

So yes, if you marry a girl under 16 now or 50 years ago, then you are a pedophile. A man should marry an adult instead of a child.

Disagree. You may be breaking the law but it doesn't make you a pedophile to marry a 15 year old girl.

 

[ProudMuslim]

Thanks. This certainly is terrible and nothing to do with Sharia. Sharia does not allow for one to make up the form of punishment such as seems to be the case here and the hudud would not be applied on minors.

This video is not of "hudud" or "punishment" was it was circulated in the net couple of years ago, i have done a research about it and this sick video of a father using his son performing some "eye catching performance" to the crowd. In otherw words, the father is doing this to gain money.

That is sick but what is sicker is to use this video and taint an entire country and Islam with it.

 

[ProudMuslim]

So if a person, say a boy about 14, only steal food to eat, and is caught 3 times, he would lost his hand?

Do the Sharia have age limit before cutting off their hand?

Of course there are always age limit for every crime in Islam.

There are SO many conditions that must be met before severing the hand of the thief. Examples of such conditions:

1. The thief must be an adult.
2. The thief must be sane.
3. The thief must know theft is forbidden and its consequences
3. The thief must not have resorted to stealing under duress, if he had been compelled to do so, the penal code is not applied.
4. The stolen thing must be something that is worth owning.
5. The stolen goods must not be belonging to family members
6. The stolen goods must have an owner (not public property)
7. The stolen goods must be taken secretly
8. The stolen goods must be taken away with criminal intention
9. The stolen goods must not be food
10. The stolen goods must be stolen from a secure place (e.g. safe)


So think about some dictators who steal the money of their people and save it in their Switzerland bank account buying the most lavish and expensive belongings while their countries deteriorate and people are dying out of starvation and curable diseases, and tell me if cutting their hands is "cruel" compared to what they have done. Personally i believe they should be executed and not only have their hands severed.

 

[England my lionheart]

This video is not of "hudud" or "punishment" was it was circulated in the net couple of years ago, i have done a research about it and this sick video of a father using his son performing some "eye catching performance" to the crowd. In otherw words, the father is doing this to gain money.

That is sick but what is sicker is to use this video and taint an entire country and Islam with it.

Iran does'nt need help tainting itself,i chose that picture because the others were too gory,if that was a setup then i will unconditionally apologise.
In reality Iran is far more organised in harming and killing Children (check out Amnesty Int) ,Homosexuals,Adulterers,anyone with an opinion etc,i will not apologise for criticising them or punishments that violate basic Human rights.

 

[England my lionheart]

Of course there are always age limit for every crime in Islam.

There are SO many conditions that must be met before severing the hand of the thief. Examples of such conditions:

1. The thief must be an adult.
2. The thief must be sane.
3. The thief must know theft is forbidden and its consequences
3. The thief must not have resorted to stealing under duress, if he had been compelled to do so, the penal code is not applied.
4. The stolen thing must be something that is worth owning.
5. The stolen goods must not be belonging to family members
6. The stolen goods must have an owner (not public property)
7. The stolen goods must be taken secretly
8. The stolen goods must be taken away with criminal intention
9. The stolen goods must not be food
10. The stolen goods must be stolen from a secure place (e.g. safe)


So think about some dictators who steal the money of their people and save it in their Switzerland bank account buying the most lavish and expensive belongings while their countries deteriorate and people are dying out of starvation and curable diseases, and tell me if cutting their hands is "cruel" compared to what they have done. Personally i believe they should be executed and not only have their hands severed.

Which dictators

 

[ProudMuslim]

Which dictators

Are you serious?

 

[ProudMuslim]

Iran does'nt need help tainting itself,i chose that picture because the others were too gory,if that was a setup then i will unconditionally apologise.
In reality Iran is far more organised in harming and killing Children (check out Amnesty Int) ,Homosexuals,Adulterers,anyone with an opinion etc,i will not apologise for criticising them or punishments that violate basic Human rights.

I was referring to this video.

I will not ask you to apologize for criticizing any government that violates human rights because that is what i do as well.

 

[Kodanshi]

RE: BOY HAVING HIS ARM CRUSHED

Not only does this have NOTHING to do with Islâm, it has nothing to do with punishment! It is a simple street performance which Islamophobes have then circulated as an ‘example’ of the supposed barbarity of Islâm!

snopes.com: Islamic Justice -- Boy Punished for Stealing Bread

 

[England my lionheart]

Such a cool set of Laws,for stealing a loaf of Bread they improvised this boys punishment

I withdraw this picture as representative of Sharia Hudd punishment,i chose this picture because it was'nt so gory without realising it's authenticity for which i apologise.
I would obviously provide alternative pictures if requested although the content is gory and not for the feint hearted.