Shi'a Muslim and Bahai Only: Meaning of the Seal and the Last

[mojtaba]

Salaam Mojtaba,

I give a conclusion in the following paragraph, and my question is Do you think this conclusion that I make from the discussions so far is Fair:


So, in Hadithes we see, Ali is called Seal of Successors and Saints (Awliya and Waseen).
On the other hand, we know that, other Hadithes states that there are 12 Imams and each one is a Walee and Wassi (successor and saint).
So, a fair question would be, if seal means last, then how can Ali being Seal of Successors be 'Reconciled' with the Hadithes that says there are 11 successors and saints after Ali?

If we search, we probably do not find any recorded Tradition, that anybody had asked this question directly from the Infallible Imams, hence, there is no explicit Authentic Hadith that gives a direct response and explanation to this question specifically.

However, based on your understanding of Hadithes, you gave the following explanation:

I personally think you are a smart person. While your explanation certainly is possible.....however:

Our explanation and reasoning generally and ultimately depends on our own understanding and our conclusions from other hadithes or verses, and because, no matter how smart we are, we are not infallible Imams or Prophet appointed by God, hence it is always possible that our conclusions be somewhat incorrect, specially because the words of Imams and God are difficult and they could have another interpretation. Is this a fair statement?

It is enough. I think, as you mentioned, I have answered your questions.
I answered your question only by Hadiths. Go back and reread my posts.
Good Luck!

 

[Shiranui117]

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