Shi'a-Sunni war: which side would America take?

[Flankerl]

None, as far as I know.

Well you got some reading up to do.

 

[Smart_Guy]

How many of the terrorists who have attacked, or tried to attack, the West are Shia? None, as far as I know. Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, Al-Shebab, Daish — all Sunni. The Shia don't do jihad because they've usually been on the receiving end.

Why does the US tend to back the Suunis? Partly a legacy from the days when they depended on Saudi oil, partly because it's mostly Shia groups who stand up to Israel.

There is something you might not know about Shiaa. They have what's called taqiyyah that allows some sects of them to lie about anything they want except maybe just against each other. That alone opens so many cans of worms in the statistics credibility about Shiaa and Sunnah. They are also encouraged to practice it specifically against Sunnah.

 

[gsa]

There is something you might not know about Shiaa. They have what's called taqiyyah that allows some sects of them to lie about anything they won't except maybe just against each other. That alone opens so many cans of worms in the statistics credibility about Shiaa and Sunnah. They are also encouraged to practice it specifically against Sunnah.

Hardly surprising that the Shia developed this doctrine, given the reality of their persecution at various times, in various places. But I don't think that religious dissimulation (i.e., lying to avoid persecution or other unwanted consequences) is particular to Islam. This is a common practice in times of political or religious persecution, or when people are engaged in subversive activities.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Hardly surprising that the Shia developed this doctrine, given the reality of their persecution at various times, in various places. But I don't think that religious dissimulation (i.e., lying to avoid persecution or other unwanted consequences) is particular to Islam. This is a common practice in times of political or religious persecution, or when people are engaged in subversive activities.

I agree.

It just happened that they did make a religious practice of it. They even made it a basic practice and have texts of it that give them credits. Other peoples may have practiced it before, but I don't think they made it a religious practice with its own special rules.

I don't blame them really. They faced so much persecution indeed. It is one reason I support them to some extent. But that's another subject.

 

[GoodbyeDave]

Well you got some reading up to do.

If you have any evidence to refute my post, give it. A bare claim that it exists isn't worth the paper it's written on.

 

[Flankerl]

If you have any evidence to refute my post, give it. A bare claim that it exists isn't worth the paper it's written on.

How about the Beirut bombing against the US?

How about the AMIA bombing?

How about the rather recent bombing in Bulgaria?

 

[GoodbyeDave]

How about the Beirut bombing against the US?

US troops in Lebanon — by what authority — in collusion with Israel.

How about the AMIA bombing?

US journalists have doubted the claims of Hezbollah involvement: the truth was never established.

How about the rather recent bombing in Bulgaria?

"…we're not, at this point, in a position to make a statement about responsibility" said White House spokesman.

I don't support attacks on civilians, like the last two cases, but I still make a distinction between types of attack. I said that Shiites did not take part in jihad: they do not attack people for being non-Muslims. Hezbollah is conducting a war against Israel because it occupies Arab lands, which is a different thing.

 

[Flankerl]

US troops in Lebanon — by what authority — in collusion with Israel.

By what authority? The Lebanese Government requested a multinational Force in the UN.

Don't cry.