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Shocking claim to Macro-evolution!

Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
nPeace said:
Look who is talking about reasoning rationally. Someone you can't even get a rational, nor reasonable response from.
How many persons on these forums know how you like to dance away from any post that requires a direct answer, or support for a mere claim? I can count those persons on both hands, and then I need my toes too.
Rational and reasonable are bad words where you are concerned.

It only looks like martyrdom to you and other evilutionists, because you like to poke at religion, but hate anyone who pokes at your holy philosophy. (That's holy, as in full of holes)
A child could show how stupid the storytelling is.

This is a debate forum.
What...you don't like your philosophies attacked and exposed for what it is?
That seems to make sense. That explains the hatred unleashed on any who speak against it - including being vehemently abusive, even toward people in videos and other links.
Why... what are you afraid of... that your preaching campaign might somehow be undermined?
Isn't that being wimpy crybabies? Like children about to get their behind whipped?

The apostle Paul was humble. Jesus was humble. Both stood up to self proclaimed "giants". I'm always humble. It only appears to look otherwise because of your wordview. It's an illusion. It will disappear once you stop resisting the truth, and stop believing just-so-stories.
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What are you talking about? I gave you direct answers. You asked poorly formed questions. I offered to help you to understand the basics of science and we had hardly began and you ran away.

Just because you do not like the answers does not mean that they are not rational. Tell me, can you try to put a damper on your false beliefs for just a little while?

And yes, this a debate forum, but there is no debate about evolution. There is only corrections in regards to mistaken beliefs. You might as well argue against gravity.
 
nPeace

nPeace

Veteran Member
Subduction Zone said:
What are you talking about? I gave you direct answers. You asked poorly formed questions. I offered to help you to understand the basics of science and we had hardly began and you ran away.

Just because you do not like the answers does not mean that they are not rational. Tell me, can you try to put a damper on your false beliefs for just a little while?

And yes, this a debate forum, but there is no debate about evolution. There is only corrections in regards to mistaken beliefs. You might as well argue against gravity.
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Another thing you do, is rush through posts so hard, you don't even bother to read properly, and give a response that clearly shows you don't bother reading.
Mostly, I find you are just interested in your own mission.

Bye Bye. Adios. Sayonara
I'm off this long winding road, leading to nowhere.
 
Polymath257

Polymath257

Think & Care
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Personal attacks and name-calling, whether direct or in the third person, are strictly prohibited on the forums. Critique each other's ideas all you want, but under no circumstances personally attack each other or the staff. Quoting a member's post in a separate/new thread without their permission to challenge or belittle them, or harassing staff members for performing moderation duties, will also be considered a personal attack.

Calm it down, guys. Attack/discuss ideas, not people.
 
ecco

ecco

Veteran Member
nPeace said:
Look who is talking about reasoning rationally. Someone you can't even get a rational, nor reasonable response from.
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As an observer, I must say that between you and the others, it is clear that you are the one who, consistently, refuses to reason rationally.

nPeace said:
How many persons on these forums know how you like to dance away from any post that requires a direct answer, or support for a mere claim? I can count those persons on both hands, and then I need my toes too.
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You can count that many? Really? I don't see any of them coming to support your views. On the other hand, I, an observer in this thread, can attest that you are the one who ducks and dodges and evades.

nPeace said:
It only looks like martyrdom to you and other evilutionists, because you like to poke at religion, but hate anyone who pokes at your holy philosophy. (That's holy, as in full of holes)
A child could show how stupid the storytelling is.
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What is it they call your bible? The greatest story ever told. Denying science doesn't make you a martyr, it just shows how much your religious indoctrination has put you into a state of willful denial.

nPeace said:
What...you don't like your philosophies attacked and exposed for what it is?
That seems to make sense. That explains the hatred unleashed on any who speak against it - including being vehemently abusive, even toward people in videos and other links.
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What you read as hatred is just rational responses to your opinions.

nPeace said:
Why... what are you afraid of... that your preaching campaign might somehow be undermined?
Isn't that being wimpy crybabies? Like children about to get their behind whipped?
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If there is any fear, it must be on your part.

You know if you were to accept the science of evolution, you would have to accept that your god view is also wrong. That is too frightening to even contemplate, isn't it?

nPeace said:
The apostle Paul was humble. Jesus was humble. Both stood up to self proclaimed "giants". I'm always humble. It only appears to look otherwise because of your wordview.
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You don't appear humble. Wilful ignorance isn't confused with humility.
 
tas8831

tas8831

Well-Known Member
nPeace said:
Your question is a bit confusing.
I don't believe the evolutionist view that anything popped into existence from nothing, or nowhere.
Why do you want to pin that view on me?
Are you not the one who believes that?
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No, YOU are.

YOU believe that man and animals and plants popped out of nowhere (dust) on a planet that popped out of the void by deity magic.

Stop pushing your hokey fairy tales onto others.
 
Dan From Smithville

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
nPeace said:
Care to elaborate.
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The mammalian vas deferens is looped around the ureter. Multi-function genitals. The proximity of the genitals and the rectum. In the human eye, the optic nerve is in front of the retina leading to a blind spot and the need for costly corrective mechanisms. The laryngeal nerve in mammals descends beneath aortic arch on the wrong side, so it must be elongated to innervate the larynx. It goes down into the chest cavity and back up to the larynx instead of a shorter direct route from brain to larynx. There are probably a host of genetic diseases that are the result of stupid design as well. All of these taken together, do not support an hypothesis of intelligent design. And these are just the few examples I came up with just in thinking of a response. There are many more. Our backs. Our knees. A single set of adult teeth. Etc.
 
TagliatelliMonster

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
nPeace said:
So, basically then, in other words, the scientific method itself is a religious approach... in more ways than one?
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How you concluded that from the rather clear explanation he gave.... I have no clue.
It's almost as if you didn't read the post you're replying to and decided before hand that you were going to make this statement. Almost. :rolleyes:

I don't want to be 'putting words in your mouth'.
If I understand you to be saying that the results - what is observed, maybe... may be, a wrongly concluded interpretation.
Is that what you mean, by the scientific method being all about, maybes, for one thing.
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Theories and hypothesis can be wrong and/or incomplete, yes.

Like Newtonian physics. While it worked well enough, and continues to work well enough, for calculations in medium gravity and medium speeds, it does not work for situations with extreme gravity or extreme speeds.

Einstein then corrected (or expanded - however you wish to look at it) this by accounting for relativistic effects.
 
viole

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
nPeace said:
Care to elaborate.
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What is there to elaborate? Under the assumption of design, there are several things in the natural which point to a silly, not an intelligent one. For instance male nipples. Or a gene for growing a tail, and then silence it.

Ciao

- viole
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Dr. GS Hurd said:
I followed a link from my blog, Stones and Bones, and found this discussion.

The reply I made to James Tour and the Disco'tute regarding Tour's fake "apology" was delayed for weeks by some serious health problems. But, it was finally posted July 10, 2019 starting with, Prof. James Tour and the Disco’Tutes: Still Lying, Part 1.

Basically, 1) yes, I was a chemist, 2) more lies, 3) Jack Szostak's comments to me.
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Welcome to the forum. I already saw the video that you did with Bill Ludlow. Here is the video from the link in your site:

 
Kangaroo Feathers

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
viole said:
What is there to elaborate? Under the assumption of design, there are several things in the natural which point to a silly, not an intelligent one. For instance male nipples. Or a gene for growing a tail, and then silence it.

Ciao

- viole
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They always come back with the unfalsifiable claims; "if it's beneficial, it's proof of intelligent design, if it's deleterious, it's proof of 'the Fall'".
 
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Dr. GS Hurd

Dr. GS Hurd

Member
Subduction Zone said:
Welcome to the forum. I already saw the video that you did with Bill Ludlow.
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I read the thread here this PM. A lot of creationist nonsense was posted, but that is to be expected.

The only outstanding comments were about Jack Szostak "lying" when they retracted a paper. Discovering an error and then reporting it is not "lying," it is Truth Telling.
 
tas8831

tas8831

Well-Known Member
Kangaroo Feathers said:
They always come back with the unfalsifiable claims; "if it's beneficial, it's proof of intelligent design, if it's deleterious, it's proof of 'the Fall'".
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I find that so... odd... So... self-loathing.

To worship a deity that, in It's Love, has condemned Its prize creation to a long, slow death by deterioration. Praise Be!

Not that it matters - many of the same folks gleefully explain, upon hearing about it, how God gave us mutation correction mechanisms.

So, I like to ask - we get bad mutations due to someone elese's sin, so we re then given ways to correct those mutations....????
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Dr. GS Hurd said:
I have had enough BS from so-called "moderators."

Delete my account and all my content. Creationists lie, and censor and call it "winning."
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Yes, creationists lie. Some do it on purpose, some merely repeat the lies of others. And most are cowards, at least when it comes to learning. But to keep the boards civil we cannot call a person a liar to his face, even if he is one.
 
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