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Short story about communism; Acts 4:32

Audie

Veteran Member
I agree I was wrong I'll give it another go:

A utopian world or perfect place would be one where everyone’s basic necessities of life are fulfilled. In such a world, no forms of oppression would exist. Everyone would have equal financial and social status, equal rights, opportunities, and freedoms. Although the creation of such a perfect society appears to be a distant possibility in today’s world, communism has been proposed by some to be the only way to achieve a utopian society.

In very simple words, communism is the idea that every individual in a society receives an equal share of the benefits derived from labor. In such a society, the state would own everything, implying nothing (businesses, produce, etc.) would be owned by individuals. The wealth would be re-distributed and equally divided among all the individuals in a society such that the rich will become less rich and the poor will become less poor and ultimately, all will achieve the same economic status.

Also, true communism would be achieved when the practice is spread all across the world to include all the countries of the world.

I'll go back to my previous statement - man's attempt at heaven on earth which is an absolute impossibility.

Hitler was an idealist.
Goes to show.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Calling yourself communist doesn't make you communist.

Well said Comrade. Let's purge all the fake Communists from the party together!

*manic evil communist laughter*:D

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Laika

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Premium Member
Stalin looks good in leather.

Well, leather was very fashionable in the 1940's. Very popular with government sadists on both sides of the Nazi-Soviet pact. Totally not a fetish at all. ;)
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
Stalin attended seminary school, it appears he learned his lessons well. Reading this short story from Acts of the Apostles, beginning chapter 4:32, it also appears that Christianity teaches us how communism works better than atheism ever could. It ends at chapter 5:11.
They thought Christ would come back sooner so that's why they did this so they could all quit their jobs and pray more. They all sold their property and lived off the money together. Apparently even those who were just visiting Jerusalem from other countries just stayed there and lived off the same money.

It turns out they should probably have kept working and kept their property because later on we read that they needed donations of money from other churches. So it was really a misunderstanding about when Christ would return. However, I do think a lot of good came from it as in spreading the gospel.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Stalin attended seminary school, it appears he learned his lessons well. Reading this short story from Acts of the Apostles, beginning chapter 4:32, it also appears that Christianity teaches us how communism works better than atheism ever could. It ends at chapter 5:11.

Im hearing this probably after decades. That bible verse doesnt teach communism per se, and if that is the inference you take from it probably you will find it everywhere. Anyone who speaks of sharing and caring is a communist. No problem.

Stalin did attend seminary education just like many others. But your induction has a far fetched correlation. Charles Anthony was a Christian but sent out hundreds of suicide bombers to kill innocent people, randomly. Does that correlate to give the other cheek? Stalin is named one of the biggest murderers in the history of the world. He was an atheist. They were all atheists. They killed theists, priests etc. Did that not correlate with the Bible?

Think about it.
 

lukethethird

unknown member
Im hearing this probably after decades. That bible verse doesnt teach communism per se, and if that is the inference you take from it probably you will find it everywhere. Anyone who speaks of sharing and caring is a communist. No problem.

Stalin did attend seminary education just like many others. But your induction has a far fetched correlation. Charles Anthony was a Christian but sent out hundreds of suicide bombers to kill innocent people, randomly. Does that correlate to give the other cheek? Stalin is named one of the biggest murderers in the history of the world. He was an atheist. They were all atheists. They killed theists, priests etc. Did that not correlate with the Bible?

Think about it.
The OP is not about a verse, it's a short story from chapter 4:32 thru 5:11. It's about ruling communism by fear and intimidation.
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
The OP is not about a verse, it's a short story from chapter 4:32 thru 5:11. It's about ruling communism by fear and intimidation.

Communism is when God punishes liars, got it. One day you should make a political dictionary, it'd probably be entertaining.
 

Clara Tea

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Stalin attended seminary school, it appears he learned his lessons well. Reading this short story from Acts of the Apostles, beginning chapter 4:32, it also appears that Christianity teaches us how communism works better than atheism ever could. It ends at chapter 5:11.

Acts 4:32: "And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common."

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Acts is about Socialism, not Communism.

Socialism is an economic system in which the government pays for things for the good of the community (example, taxes pay for roads and the military). Around 1700, the church ordered people to maintain the section of road that passes through their properties. The problem with pure Socialism is that there is no incentive to work if everything is free.

Anarchy means: (don't pay for government, don't get bossed or controlled by government). Republicans want to lower taxes to make less government and fewer regulations (like the kinds of regulations imposed on businesses to keep our water pure and our air clean or less poisonous). So, Republicans want a bit more Anarchy.

Communism is the economic system of Socialism with the political system of dictatorship. Generally (but not always) dictators are harsh. The current queen of England has no political power, but still could suggest things (as Princess Diana did for the public good). Dictatorships have strong work incentives (if you want to keep your head on your shoulders).

President Ronald Reagan and Vice President (later President) George Herbert Walker Bush supported the Contra dictatorship so they could fight Sandinistas. Sandinistas were Socialists who only wanted educations for their kids and enough pay to live. They hid the Iran Contra scandal from Congress and American voters.

President (and former CIA chief) George H. W. Bush promised a new world order. President W. Bush (his son) tapped phones (Google Eric Snowden), as part of this new world order.

Deng Xiaping, emperor of China, was a benevolent dictator who modernized China and made it into an economic super-power once more.

It is common knowledge that Jesus healed the sick regardless of their ability to pay (socialized medicine).

Jesus wanted churches and the government to tend to the homeless and hungry (that is Socialism).
 

Clara Tea

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Communism is when God punishes liars, got it. One day you should make a political dictionary, it'd probably be entertaining.
Acts is about Socialism, not Communism. It is about laying the goods of all before all (in other words, the rich don't get more).
 

Clara Tea

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That's certainly the Chinese model. No matter whether Falun Gong Christians or Uighur Muslims. And never have I heard of a Chinese Jew.

Kaifeng Jews - Wikipedia

History of the Jews in China - Wikipedia

The websites (above) discuss Asian (Chinese) Jews. I think that they wear Yamahas on their heads (or were those Kawasakis?). They're heavy headgear regardless.

They're also very stubborn, claiming they don't know how to speak Hebrew.

Jews came to China along the Silk Road from the Middle East. They were traders. They came during the Tang Dynasty. Famous explorers were always associated with Tang instant orange drink (astronauts, for example).

They are forbidden to eat pork, but during the Chung King Dynasty, they got a yen for canned beef chow mien and crunchy noodles.

Chinese Jews suffered with the Jing Kang incident.

Cantors sang since the Song Dynasty, though some cant singh.

In his travels (much later in history), Marco Polo (noted for getting lost in swimming pools), brought back Chinese delicacies such as noodles (spaghetti, which, if you cook them too long they become matzo balls or wanton soup), and pita from the mideast (with stuffing on top rather than in the center of flat bread, they called it pizza).
 

1213

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Stalin attended seminary school, it appears he learned his lessons well. Reading this short story from Acts of the Apostles, beginning chapter 4:32, it also appears that Christianity teaches us how communism works better than atheism ever could. It ends at chapter 5:11.

The difference to communism is, Christians did that freely, because they loved each other. In Christianity it worked because it was based on love (God). In communism (socialism) the problem is, there is always one leader who demands total control, forces others to give what they have, takes vast amount of it to himself and his friends and then gives some spoils for the people that he made poor.
 

Valjean

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Premium Member
The difference to communism is, Christians did that freely, because they loved each other. In Christianity it worked because it was based on love (God). In communism (socialism) the problem is, there is always one leader who demands total control, forces others to give what they have, takes vast amount of it to himself and his friends and then gives some spoils for the people that he made poor.
Always one leader? I thought Communism was a system of co-ops, with no leaders, other than citizens'/workers' committees, with input from everyone.
 
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