Should a business be allowed to not serve someone because they voted for someone they don't like?

[Nietzsche]

Of course I wouldn't, your just too smart for me, ain't you ?.

If you weren't such a conspiracy-theorist, perhaps you'd inspire more confidence in this regard.

 

[whirlingmerc]

I don't think caricaturing people helps As far as Trump supporters not talking about Trump's problems... actually most people didn't like either choice Clinton and Trump both had significant flaws and most people had to pick what they thought were the less bad choice.

As far as rights issues and discrimination, it's a two way street. Ideally the high view is to balance rights as equitable as possible

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Go away, its the stupid liberals that avoid anything, they are in denial, as I think you are ?.

Says the guy who's stuffing his fingers in his ears to block out someone else's first-hand experience of how bad Pence can be to LGBT people & their rights.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Gee you do really think you know it all don't you, just like a typical liberal lol.

I can't believe a cinema hasn't hired you yet - you are amazing at projection.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Of course I wouldn't, your just too smart for me, ain't you ?.

*You're

 

[Revoltingest]

I rent to anyone......Jews, Xians, Hindus, Muslims, socialists, capitalists, crones, codgers, Democrats, Republicans, the apolitical, KKK members, black separatists, alcoholics, tokers, the obese, athletes, & even....yes.....lawyers.
If politics comes up, I use it as an opportunity for friendship & business. Don't be a hater.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

For example, this Hawaiian restaurant says they will not serve people who voted for Trump
'You cannot eat here': Hawaii café riles residents with ban on Trump voters

Political affiliation is not a protected characteristic so as to the question "Should they be allowed to?", I would say yes.

Do I think they ought to? No, probably not. Aside from the fact it's a decision in rather poor taste, it's going to be rather difficult to enforce and it could quite easily backfire.

 

[metis]

For example, this Hawaiian restaurant says they will not serve people who voted for Trump
'You cannot eat here': Hawaii café riles residents with ban on Trump voters

Discrimination is discrimination, so I cannot at all agree with what the restaurant is doing.

 

[whirlingmerc]

the weirdest position would be

the restaurant doesn't have to serve republicans
plus
the restraint has to cater to polygamous weddings (or else)

 

[tytlyf]

Since this has nothing to do with religion/race, etc. It doesn't fall into the usual discrimination laws.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Actually....I think it touches on religious discrimination because people are often one or the other based on faith positions ... often... not always but often... the DNC more open to atheism and secular positions, the most secular views of liberal Catholics and liberal protestants tend to be DNC

and so... it does overlap religious discrimination

 

[Twilight Hue]

For example, this Hawaiian restaurant says they will not serve people who voted for Trump
'You cannot eat here': Hawaii café riles residents with ban on Trump voters

And the cake shop down the street saying no gays who voted for Trump. ...

 

[whirlingmerc]

Personally, I think the cake shop guy is treated to reductionistically

I would probably serve most anyone, but that's the nature of conscience, my conscience is not someone else's conscience (which is part of religious liberty and conscience)
and so I think if there are other bakeries available and there is a religious conscience issue I would respect the conscience. If there is no bakery in reasonable distance that would be different.

The Obama admin acted as if whenever sexual rights and religious rights came in conflict, sexual rights won and that was a misstep.

 

[tytlyf]

Actually....I think it touches on religious discrimination because people are often one or the other based on faith positions ... often... not always but often... the DNC more open to atheism and secular positions, the most secular views of liberal Catholics and liberal protestants tend to be DNC

and so... it does overlap religious discrimination

No, it actually doesn't. Democrats and Republicans are majority christian. Atheists and secularists voted for Trump and Hillary.

 

[whirlingmerc]

OK lets look at the numbers
ft_16-11-09_relig_exitpoll_religrace

The more often a person attended a place of worship the more likely to vote Trump
ft_16-11-09_relig_exitpoll_attendance

Christians tended toward Trump in significant numbers, unaffiliated tended toward Hillary in significant numbers. It may be partly the DBC insensitivity to religious liberty and also that
Hillary had many terminological inexactitudes exposed... not sure...

Actually Trump won the Catholic vote by a wide margin
"Now that the voting is over, however, preliminary results indicate Trump decisively won a majority of those self-identifying as Catholics, by 52 to 45 percent" Trump wins Catholic vote in election that awoke religious feeling

Protestants had Trump win by an even larger margin 19 points 39 Hillary to 58 Trump
so broadly protestants and catholics voted Trump
born again Christians were 16 to 86 and yet higher
so yes... there is a religious discrimination aspect

Clinton won the religiously unaffiliated like 66 to 28 ...
need I say more

 

[columbus]

Of course I wouldn't, your just too smart for me, ain't you ?.

That is not what I said.
What I said is that Vice President Mike Pence is from my town and has been governor of my state for years. I know him well enough to know what he is about. He is an orientation bigot and the evidence has been all over the local news for many years.
Doesn't matter what you think. The evidence is there for anyone to find if they want it.
Tom

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Around here, though, the only people who seem to feel entitled to things are Christians and black people. We gay people just avoid people who don't want our custom. It isn't difficult.

Sometimes it is. The only arts and craft store around here is Hobby Lobby, meaning if I urgently need something that can't wait for online delivery, I have to go to Hobby Lobby because I can't get what I need unless I drive way south to a different store.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Or Sam's Club. They actually have a fairly decent selection for pens, markers, and colored pencils.

 

[psychoslice]

If you weren't such a conspiracy-theorist, perhaps you'd inspire more confidence in this regard.

You have judged me wrong again.

 

[psychoslice]

That is not what I said.
What I said is that Vice President Mike Pence is from my town and has been governor of my state for years. I know him well enough to know what he is about. He is an orientation bigot and the evidence has been all over the local news for many years.
Doesn't matter what you think. The evidence is there for anyone to find if they want it.
Tom

And it doesn't matter what you think.