Lol, yeah, I just mean people might be harder on him if he left him then if he saved him. Kind of like "thief with at least something good in him" vs "complete *******".
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Should a robber be punished for leaving his victim to die?
- Thread starter Kerr
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I should read more carefully ...
Why not? Being a thief doesn't deprive one of a conscience.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Ok, maybe legal terms are not my strong side. Its not just that Bill left Travis, its that he took the time to go down on the track, steal his money (or whatever he took), and then walk away so that people wouldnt think he pushed him onto the track... There is just something so wrong with that. If he should be punished for it or not, idk. I feel like he should, though.
Oh.... I wasn't meaning to criticise anything you wrote; just adding to it, really. The big point was really that some countries have made it a criminal offence to avoid helping, or refuse to help a person in distress.
No doubt about whether Bill was/is a nasty piece of work, or not. If he had any conscience it would probably work on him over time, but some people seem to have no conscience at all.
Wirey
Fartist
There's a big difference between stealing and rolling a drunk you find on the railway tracks. One at least involves a little thought and planning. The other is an opportunistic shot at someone unable to defend themselves.
Personally, I think if he was afraid of getting caught, he'd have put the guys head on the rail.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
A story about the U.S.A has circulated Europe for over forty years, that people, especially doctors, will 'pass by' severe accidents and injured people because they are frightened of being blamed if s/he then dies. The story also says that doctors etc are frightened that they won't be insured if they give assistance and then it all goes wrong.
That's what I have heard for decades.
Mathematician
Reason, and reason again
I don't think there should be law that presupposes the appropriate reaction to a given situation and then punish you if you deviate. Yes, it may allow leeway for some questionable decisions, but I don't think it's the business of government to say that a frightened bystander be 'forced' to act. What if that bystander was a child or a victim of domestic abuse by a drunkard?
He's guilty of theft. If he had pushed the man, he'd be guilty of second degree murder with the possibility of reduction to voluntary manslaughter.
He's guilty of theft. If he had pushed the man, he'd be guilty of second degree murder with the possibility of reduction to voluntary manslaughter.
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Lady B
noob
I do not see this as a rampant problem, but perhaps one can understand given the facts of the Judicial system in America. Any Doctor practicing medicine in the U.S. can be sure he will be sued multiple times through out his career. Malpractice isn't about malpracticing any longer, It is about getting rich easy.
I think before we judge doctors and their somewhat legitimate concerns, let us look to ourselves, how many times have we passed by an accident or someone stranded on the side of the road and thought to ourselves. Well someone else will surely come to help them, they need someone more equipped then me, surely someone has already been called or It isn't safe for me ....
I am guilty.
What a world we would live in if everyone decided that today, I will be that person !
This of course has little to do with the Thread's topic, but I wonder how many people passed by that man, and considered helping but dismissed it thinking someone else will come.......
Reptillian
Hamburgler Extraordinaire
Whenever I'm about to do something, I think, 'Would an idiot do that?' And if they would, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute
Does that include eating
?
Reptillian
Hamburgler Extraordinaire
Does that include eating
I'm not sure how Dwight Schrute feels about eating. Do idiots eat?
Mathematician
Reason, and reason again
Yes, but poorly.
Considering they have not starved, I guess so.