Should All NC-17 Films Be Released In Worldwide Mainstream Theaters?

[Titanic]

There has only been one NC-17 film released worldwide in mainstream theaters. That movie was Showgirls and it bombed horribly at the box office. So my question is do you think another NC-17 movie will ever be released in worldwide mainstream theaters? If so then should all NC-17 films be released in mainstream cinema? Do you suppose the movies would ever make enough profit for this too happen? My last question is this if you say no to the other questions should the Nc-17 rating be dropped and no more films be released under that rating ever? What is your thoughts on all of this? BTW the Nc-17 rating is apart of the movie industry and it is by no means porn. So what do you think?

 

[Titanic]

Just so everyone knows. I think NC-17 movies should be released worldwide. They are apart of the movie industry. I mean might as well.

 

[Skwim]

Buck up, soft porn is probably at a theater near you right now.

"Titles with surrendered ratings are usually released unrated to avoid the stigmahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_stigma of NC-17. Some films are released without an MPAA rating because the filmmaker expects an NC-17."
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[Titanic]

Buck up, soft porn is probably at a theater near you right now.

"Titles with surrendered ratings are usually released unrated to avoid the stigmahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_stigma of NC-17. Some films are released without an MPAA rating because the filmmaker expects an NC-17."
Source: Wikipedia
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I think you got the wrong idea. NC-17 films are not porn dude. Orgazmo was rated NC-17 and it had no nudity or sex in it. Plus I know about all of the other stuff you said. I am a film buff and apart of the film industry.

 

[Warren Clark]

There has only been one NC-17 film released worldwide in mainstream theaters. That movie was Showgirls and it bombed horribly at the box office. So my question is do you think another NC-17 movie will ever be released in worldwide mainstream theaters? If so then should all NC-17 films be released in mainstream cinema? Do you suppose the movies would ever make enough profit for this too happen? My last question is this if you say no to the other questions should the Nc-17 rating be dropped and no more films be released under that rating ever? What is your thoughts on all of this? BTW the Nc-17 rating is apart of the movie industry and it is by no means porn. So what do you think?

I don't see why they shouldn't be released in theaters.
Honestly, there are several big budget movies that do horribly.
So the one NC-17 movie that was in theaters isn't enough to predict the outcome of the rest to come.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

The ratings are completely arbitrary, inconsistent, and random. I find the whole system to be pretty pointless.

 

[Warren Clark]

The ratings are completely arbitrary, inconsistent, and random. I find the whole system to be pretty pointless.

I don't go by ratings. But I find it interesting when people make a movie that costs 100 million to make and it only makes 45 million in return. That **** has to suck.

I mean Dreamworks has been competing with Pixar but Pixar is blowing them out of the water.

 

[Titanic]

I don't go by ratings. But I find it interesting when people make a movie that costs 100 million to make and it only makes 45 million in return. That **** has to suck.

I mean Dreamworks has been competing with Pixar but Pixar is blowing them out of the water.

Have you seen Showgirls?

 

[Warren Clark]

Have you seen Showgirls?

Honestly no, it didn't seem to have a deep enough plot to get me to sit down for an hour.

 

[Titanic]

Honestly no, it didn't seem to have a deep enough plot to get me to sit down for an hour.

It was cause of that movie no more NC-17 films has been released worldwide. Although it makes for a decent guilty pleasure film.

 

[Penumbra]

The movie Blue Valentine, a critically acclaimed drama with Michelle Williams and Ryan Gosling about a loveless marriage and flashbacks to when they first met and fell in love, was originally rated NC-17 due to detailed and extended (but non-graphic) sex scenes, including a (non-graphic) depiction of Gosling giving Williams oral sex. They had to appeal the decision, and they won the appeal to have it rated R, as it should be, because they pointed out that non-graphic oral sex on males happens in R rated movies and so it was sexist to take so much issue with oral sex on a female, and that to give movies like Hostel an R rating and a movie about realistic marriage NC-17 was crazy.

The reason they had to go through all the effort for the appropriate rating is that if it was NC-17, it would basically mean it wouldn't have commercials on television, wouldn't be released as widely, and would essentially be shut out of receiving movie awards, even though it would be the same movie.

Theaters get to pick which movies they show, and larger theater chains generally won't show NC-17 films. I support the right of theaters to show whatever movies they want, but it is unfortunate that a rating can have such a major influence on the viability of a good film, and ideally, a theater director would watch a movie to determine whether to show it or not rather than to simply not show a movie based on a rating.

 

[Titanic]

The movie Blue Valentine, a critically acclaimed drama with Michelle Williams and Ryan Gosling about a loveless marriage and flashbacks to when they first met and fell in love, was originally rated NC-17 due to detailed and extended (but non-graphic) sex scenes, including a (non-graphic) depiction of Gosling giving Williams oral sex. They had to appeal the decision, and they won the appeal to have it rated R, as it should be, because they pointed out that non-graphic oral sex on males happens in R rated movies and so it was sexist to take so much issue with oral sex on a female, and that to give movies like Hostel an R rating and a movie about realistic marriage NC-17 was crazy.

The reason they had to go through all the effort for the appropriate rating is that if it was NC-17, it would basically mean it wouldn't have commercials on television, wouldn't be released as widely, and would essentially be shut out of receiving movie awards, even though it would be the same movie.

Theaters get to pick which movies they show, and larger theater chains generally won't show NC-17 films. I support the right of theaters to show whatever movies they want, but it is unfortunate that a rating can have such a major influence on the viability of a good film, and ideally, a theater director would watch a movie to determine whether to show it or not rather than to simply not show a movie based on a rating.

NC-17 rating is apart of the movie industry. Might as well show all NC-17 films in worldwide theaters. Or get rid of the rating. Either one.

 

[Skwim]

I think you got the wrong idea. NC-17 films are not porn dude. Orgazmo was rated NC-17 and it had no nudity or sex in it. Plus I know about all of the other stuff you said. I am a film buff and apart of the film industry.

My mistake.

NC-17 — No One 17 and Under Admitted. An NC-17 rated motion picture is one that, in the view of the Rating Board, most parents would consider patently too adult for their children 17 and under. No children will be admitted. NC-17 does not mean "obscene" or "pornographic" in the common or legal meaning of those words, and should not be construed as a negative judgment in any sense. The rating simply signals that the content is appropriate only for an adult audience. An NC-17 rating can be based on violence, sex, aberrational behavior, drug abuse or any other element that most parents would consider too strong and therefore off-limits for viewing by their children.
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So what are you looking for, adult. . .

1) violence ?

2) sex ?

3) aberrational behavior ?

4) drug abuse ?

5) any other element that most parents would consider too strong and therefore off-limits for viewing by their children. ?

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As a side note; just the other night on one of the ad-free cable movie channels carried by Direct TV there was a bedroom scene where it briefly showed a close-up of penis in a woman's mouth. I was shocked and begobbered! The censor must have blinked. And no, I don't recall the name of the movie or the channel that carried it.

 

[Penumbra]

NC-17 rating is apart of the movie industry. Might as well show all NC-17 films in worldwide theaters. Or get rid of the rating. Either one.

No, you don't have to get rid of either one, because movie theaters and the rating agency are separate entities. The rating agency is going to do what it wants, and the theater is going to do what it thinks is profitable. Theaters don't have to show every movie that gets made, and the rating agency doesn't have to change its rating based on what theaters will or will not show.

 

[Titanic]

My mistake.

NC-17 — No One 17 and Under Admitted. An NC-17 rated motion picture is one that, in the view of the Rating Board, most parents would consider patently too adult for their children 17 and under. No children will be admitted. NC-17 does not mean "obscene" or "pornographic" in the common or legal meaning of those words, and should not be construed as a negative judgment in any sense. The rating simply signals that the content is appropriate only for an adult audience. An NC-17 rating can be based on violence, sex, aberrational behavior, drug abuse or any other element that most parents would consider too strong and therefore off-limits for viewing by their children.
source

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So what are you looking for, adult. . .

1) violence ?

2) sex ?

3) aberrational behavior ?

4) drug abuse ?

5) any other element that most parents would consider too strong and therefore off-limits for viewing by their children. ?

​

As a side note; just the other night on one of the ad-free cable movie channels carried by Direct TV there was a bedroom scene where it briefly showed a close-up of penis in a woman's mouth. I was shocked and begobbered! The censor must have blinked. And no, I don't recall the name of the movie or the channel that carried it.

NC-17 is not porn. Its apart of the movie industry not the porn industry.

 

[Titanic]

No, you don't have to get rid of either one, because movie theaters and the rating agency are separate entities. The rating agency is going to do what it wants, and the theater is going to do what it thinks is profitable. Theaters don't have to show every movie that gets made, and the rating agency doesn't have to change its rating based on what theaters will or will not show.

There really is no point then. If NC-17 films can not be shown in worldwide theaters the same way a rated r film can be then they might as well get rid of it. Hell a few years ago people were lobbying to retire the rating. I believe NC-17 films should be shown worldwide. Henry and june the first Nc-17 film was nominatied for a Oscar. So really they can be real serious contending films. When I make it big in the film industry I will bring back the NC-17 rating into the mainstream. I will make sure they will all be released in worldwide cinema. I am going to try anyway.

 

[Titanic]

Believe me Movies are my expertise, I know what I am talking about.

 

[Skwim]

It was cause of that movie no more NC-17 films has been released worldwide. Although it makes for a decent guilty pleasure film.

The NC-17 rating was the only draw it had going for itself. It was a borrrring beyond belief.

 

[Titanic]

The NC-17 rating was the only draw it had going for itself. It was a borrrring beyond belief.

One Question. Do you believe NC-17 films should be released worldwide? The same way a rated R film is?

 

[MysticSang'ha]

No, you don't have to get rid of either one, because movie theaters and the rating agency are separate entities. The rating agency is going to do what it wants, and the theater is going to do what it thinks is profitable. Theaters don't have to show every movie that gets made, and the rating agency doesn't have to change its rating based on what theaters will or will not show.

Exactly.

Theatres will want to make money, and NC-17 films don't get the kind of draw other films do.

Oh, and I saw Showgirls once. It was laughable for 20 minutes. Then I was embarrassed that I was still watching it. It wasn't even in the "so-bad-it's-good" camp because it kept trying to be dramatic.