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should certain animals be made instinct?
- Thread starter kloth
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Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
I have to agree.
I don't want to be negative, but this is a mesmerizing case where the OP is literally inapproachable.
RabbiO
הרב יונה בן זכריה
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Hard question. Humans are known to push animals/peoples into extinction. Many of these animals and creatures benefit us in unseen ways; it's hard to choose which to exterminate, or control. We're still figuring out that Global Warming, and Nuclear Warfare, may cause our own extinction.
DreadFish
Cosmic Vagabond
Yeah, I think something that most of us dont realize is that humans are the most dangerous animal on earth.
FranklinMichaelV.3
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't say we are the most dangerous, pound for pound most animals could take out an unarmed human without much trouble...we are though the most invasive as a group though. I however fear the moment that ants gain full cognitive expression...no animal does war as efficiently as ants....
How does one make animals instinct?
FranklinMichaelV.3
Well-Known Member
You might as well ask a bird how it flies or a fish how it swims....
Knight of Albion
Well-Known Member
Man has a sacred duty to care for and protect all God's creation.
Every species has its place and purpose...
Every species has its place and purpose...
BruceDLimber
Well-Known Member
Scripture makes that clear!
BTW, you need to learn the difference between "instinct" and "extinct."
Anyway, I can point this out from the Baha'i scriptures:
"[A] doubt occurs to the mind—that is, scorpions and serpents are poisonous. Are they good or evil, for they are existing beings? Yes, a scorpion is evil in relation to man; a serpent is evil in relation to man; but in relation to themselves they are not evil, for their poison is their weapon, and by their sting they defend themselves. But as the elements of their poison do not agree with our elements—that is to say, as there is antagonism between these different elements, therefore, this antagonism is evil; but in reality as regards themselves they are good."
--Some Answered Questions, Chapter 74, p. 283.
Peace,
Bruce
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Get them drunk? Works for me.
No.
I think there is a delicate balance in nature that would be foolish for people to mess with without understanding. I think could have devastating effects. I think many animals have become extinct through a natural process, but I don't think annihilation of that which we find displeasing at times to be a good solution.
Many years ago I remember hearing a story (hearing it twice from different sources -- never looked it up myself, though) about some farmers that were having trouble with rattlesnakes coming into their fields. Rather than deal only with the snakes in their fields, they decided to go out into the snakes habitat and eliminate them -- large numbers of them.
Before too long the farmers were completely overrun with rodents -- which destroyed their harvests. The rodents were a horrible and persistent problem. The problem they ended up with was much worse because of their "solution", which did not take into account the beneficial service these unpleasant and dangerous creatures actually provided for them.
(As an aside, I actually think this lesson also applies well as a metaphor to many other areas of life.)
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
Why is a raven like a writing desk?
Karl R
Active Member
I don't care whether they're god's creatures. Animals should not be made extinct.
Poisonous snakes help control the rodent population. For all of human history, rodents have competed with humans for food (raiding grain storage, etc).
Rodents also carried the fleas which caused the bubonic plague. In fact, part of what caused the bubonic plague to spread so widely was the superstitious belief that cats (another controller of rodent populations) were evil servants of witches. People killed the cats. The rats became more numerous. The rats were able to infest human homes. The people got bitten by the rats' fleas. About 50% of the population of Europe died from the plague.
People tried to kill the "devil's" creatures. They ended up killing a large part of the population. So when people suggest that certain animals should be made extinct, I consider those people to be a far greater threat than the animals.
Again, you are doing an amazing job of displaying your ignorance. I went to a yoga camp in the mountains of New Mexico several years ago. The camp owner mentioned that a puma lived in the same valley. Even though the camp owner had been sharing the valley with the puma for 7 years, he had only seen the puma once.
Animals don't attack people for no reason. Except people. People occasionally attack people for no reason. The rest of the animals are far more predictable and a lot less violent.
Do the world a favor. Learn something about animals.
Right, it's simply not our nature to invent and use weapons vastly more lethal than tooth and claw.
FranklinMichaelV.3
Well-Known Member
Even with those weapons most animals will take us down. As a group we are extremely effective, but individually even if I had a gun I would think twice about going toe to toe with a tiger.
I really like the skunk. Quite the interesting animal. The young ones are quick to spray but the adults really show restraint.
It makes a good case for the leash law as well.
It makes a good case for the leash law as well.