should certain animals be made instinct?

[Thief]

Man has a sacred duty to care for and protect all God's creation.

Every species has its place and purpose...

We dominate all that we touch.
We kill what will not obey.

I got more if you need it.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

even if they are gods creatures. but how do we know they really are gods creatures?
poisoning ones like rattle snakes, or violent ones like puma's. I mean it's either us or them, and many of them go after us for no reason other than to attack.

Which animals hunt humans for no other reason that to attack?

 

[ametist]

Erm. How animals behave and even the weather conditions are affected by human's disconnection from each other and from god.we even eat more than we need because of that disconnection. In the original idea of creation no thing poses a threat to another, all things exist in harmony and love. We also call that heaven. Human have great responsibility in earthly existence since it is created by human choice.
I thank the op for thought provoking question.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Erm. How animals behave and even the weather conditions are affected by human's disconnection from each other and from god.we even eat more than we need because of that disconnection. In the original idea of creation no thing poses a threat to another, all things exist in harmony and love. We also call that heaven. Human have great responsibility in earthly existence since it is created by human choice.
I thank the op for thought provoking question.

This concept strikes me as amazingly human-centric, and isn't anything I'd subscribe to in the least sense. However, I would imagine that any belief in a Abrahamaic God would preclude a desire to deliberately exterminate species which were created by Him.

 

[BruceDLimber]

Poisonous snakes help control the rodent population. For all of human history, rodents have competed with humans for food (raiding grain storage, etc).

Rodents also carried the fleas which caused the bubonic plague. In fact, part of what caused the bubonic plague to spread so widely was the superstitious belief that cats (another controller of rodent populations) were evil servants of witches. People killed the cats. The rats became more numerous. The rats were able to infest human homes. The people got bitten by the rats' fleas. About 50% of the population of Europe died from the plague.

People tried to kill the "devil's" creatures. They ended up killing a large part of the population. So when people suggest that certain animals should be made extinct, I consider those people to be a far greater threat than the animals.

Quite so!!

Indeed, the benefits of having snakes around are far greater than commonly imagined!:

Not only do they reduce the population of rodents, thus helping prevent bubonic plague, but those same rodents also help transmit Lyme disease because the ticks carrying it need to drink rodent blood early in their life cycles!

So unless and until you can find a better way of preventing these diseases, you'd best lay off the snakes!


Bruce

 

[Valjean]

It's humans that are the aberrant life form.
All the other plants and animals live in symbiosis and contribute to the general welfare of the ecosystem. Humans, on the other hand, are ecologically toxic. We're a planetary infection and are destroying the whole ecosystem.
If any species should be "made extinct" it should be us.

 

[Iti oj]

If you want to eliminate dangerous animals, go after humans. We're the greatest danger to ourselves the earth has.

That was my first reaction... Well after I thought 'extinct'

 

[kloth]

Are calls for education a waste of time? And what would that say of the one that considered them so?

what good is your book smarts if you don't have street smarts? but anyway, that's the last of my off topic review with you.

What did i ever do to deserve such ruthless wrath?!

I was referring to the OP, not the title.

I can be concerned with a number of things at the same time, though grammar is rarely on my list of things to be really concerned about.

that's no wrath. I won't release my wrath on the net again, I don't need the local cops knocking on my door, again.
grammar is the last thing on my list, I am more concerned about peoples insight, not their programmed grammar which is okay, but not needed here in my opinion...unless I start teaching English & literature and grading people on it here.

Which animals hunt humans for no other reason that to attack?

rattlesnakes for one, and that's my biggest one. also, bears and maybe sharks. I never heard of a shark eating an entire person, they usually take a bite and run...or swim, that doesn't sound like hunger so much to me.

Erm. How animals behave and even the weather conditions are affected by human's disconnection from each other and from god.we even eat more than we need because of that disconnection. In the original idea of creation no thing poses a threat to another, all things exist in harmony and love. We also call that heaven. Human have great responsibility in earthly existence since it is created by human choice.
I thank the op for thought provoking question.

I wonder why god made some animals so aggressive, and yet others are not. you mention weather, but aggressive or mellow animals are like this year round it seems like, indoors and outdoors. thanks for the reply.

It's humans that are the aberrant life form.
All the other plants and animals live in symbiosis and contribute to the general welfare of the ecosystem. Humans, on the other hand, are ecologically toxic. We're a planetary infection and are destroying the whole ecosystem.
If any species should be "made extinct" it should be us.

I agree with what humans have done, but have you ever weighed out the good and bad that humans have done? I mean humans invented the computer and the internet, and how happy does that make you? or millions of others?
like animals, I think some humans should be made instinct for reasons you listed and then some...but not all. it's a simple division of good and bad, if all the bad people were gone how much better would the world be in?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

what good is your book smarts if you don't have street smarts? but anyway, that's the last of my off topic review with you.

Then how about trying to be on-topic?

But, that would require you be willing to learn about biology. Round and round we go...

 

[Valjean]

I agree with what humans have done, but have you ever weighed out the good and bad that humans have done? I mean humans invented the computer and the internet, and how happy does that make you? or millions of others?
like animals, I think some humans should be made instinct for reasons you listed and then some...but not all. it's a simple division of good and bad, if all the bad people were gone how much better would the world be in?

The 'good' you cite is self serving. You're equating human worth with our success at exploiting the planet and finding clever ways of amusing ourselves.
This isn't my idea of good.

 

[kloth]

The 'good' you cite is self serving. You're equating human worth with our success at exploiting the planet and finding clever ways of amusing ourselves.
This isn't my idea of good.

I should put this next line in my signature.

if you don't explain yourself, then your point has no merit.

that last line I just typed is in reference to you saying 'This isn't my idea of good'.

life is too short and can be cut out from us very easily at any given moment in my opinion. so anything that can make life better without hurting anything or anyone is good to me. who wants to be around a bunch of angry, depressed people with no values waiting to die? maybe some people do who like drama (not saying that about you), but it seems to me in this day way too many people are taking themselves way too seriously for what they are worth. good to be serious at times, but no need to be miserable because all that does is make people dysfunctional after time.

 

[McBell]

I should put this next line in my signature.

if you don't explain yourself, then your point has no merit.

that last line I just typed is in reference to you saying 'This isn't my idea of good'.

life is too short and can be cut out from us very easily at any given moment in my opinion. so anything that can make life better without hurting anything or anyone is good to me. who wants to be around a bunch of angry, depressed people with no values waiting to die? maybe some people do who like drama (not saying that about you), but it seems to me in this day way too many people are taking themselves way too seriously for what they are worth. good to be serious at times, but no need to be miserable because all that does is make people dysfunctional after time.

What are you going on about?

 

[NobodyYouKnow]

I would like to propose an argument, as a 'nature lover', who can also see the total harm and devastation to the environment caused by the overpopulation of one species within an ecosystem.

We shall take Australia:

1. Sulphur-Crested Cockatoo:

These are a real menace, and exfoliate native trees and shrubs at the rate of knots (being very fussy and picky in their diet). Where I used to live, the sky and trees would just be covered in them...and I mean, thousands of them, all screeching and skwarking, making me deaf (especially at about 6am-7am every morning) - dropping tree branches and seed-pods and defacating all over my car (I had no garage/carport) - dropping all those branches and seed-pods in my gutters creating a potential bushfire hazard if I didn't clean them out regularly, and I mean, regularly...

Funny thing is, in Japan, They will pay up to $8,000USD each for one of these things....

I wouldn't let a breeding pair ever get out anywhere though - I wouldn't wish this on a country like Japan.

Make these birds extinct - pronto!

2. Great White Shark:

About the only animal 'on top of the foodchain' besides the human being, is the shark. I can see little use in animals like sharks and crocodiles, and the only good thing that ever came from a shark, was the movie, 'Jaws'.

Sharks eat tuna, mackerel and fish that humans can eat. Sharks also eat humans and there's no safe place to swim anymore. There's also a huge explosion of sharks going on 'feeding frenzies' off the Australian shores, and sharks regularly get caught in fishermen's nets instead of fish.

Make those sharks extinct...like nao.

3. Fruit Bats/Flying foxes:

I really love these animals and how cute they are, but not every evening, when the whole sky becomes black with them, obliterating the setting sun, and finishing off what the cockatoos started in the morning, with their deafening sonar noises.

They drop their guano everywhere (yes, I know it makes good fetiliser and the amino acid guanine comes from it - I was a biochemist, once), but they eat all the farmer's fruit, they leave a mess, they bring down power lines by flying into them...yeah, there are billions of these things...

Make those gone...like the wind!

4. Cane Toads:

Originally an exercise in biological pest control that went terribly, terribly wrong (what you must think about before deciding to make a species 'extinct').

The Cane Toad was brought into Australia to try and exterminate the Cane Beetle by eating them.

After the cane toads bred into the millions, they found out that cane toads didn't really have a liking/preference for cane beetles, and much preferred our native insects (and small creatures) instead. As soon as the rains come, the population just explodes.

It's the only 'frog' that can kill a dog (through poisonous glands in its head). They puff themselves up like a puffer-fish (which should also be made extinct) and I have seen them being run over by a car and still get up and hop away after that. Their skin is like armour plating.

Yes, let's make anything like that extinct please...we could do without those things...(and I shall add more later).

 

[Mycroft]

We can't go around making animals we don't like extinct. That would destroy the earth far quicker than any man-made skullduggery.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I still say that if we're going to make any animal extinct, make it humans.

 

[Mycroft]

I still say that if we're going to make any animal extinct, make it humans.

We probably deserve extinction the most. Evidence: Justin Bieber.

 

[NobodyYouKnow]

5. Rabbits:

Now, here is another problem that was faced when mankind tried to make a species 'extinct' once *see cane toads.

We have always had (and still have) a huge rabbit problem, competing with native marsupials and farming livestock for food and contributing to soil erosion in many areas.

We are just overrun with them, courtesy of the British, who introduced the species via sailing ships back in the 1800's as 'hunting sport for their dogs'.

So, back in the 1950's, it was decided to wipe out all the rabbits in Australia, by using 'biological warfare' and a virus was created called 'myxomatosis'. This virus did unspeakable, cruel things to rabbits and eventually mutated into strains resistant to any anti-virals they were using at the time:

Myxomatosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Eventually, the virus crossed species and started to infect/affect our native wildlife, like those the rabbits were in competition with, while the rabbits started to breed an immunity towards the disease. It was a total disaster.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

5. Rabbits:

Now, here is another problem that was faced when mankind tried to make a species 'extinct' once *see cane toads.

We have always had (and still have) a huge rabbit problem, competing with native marsupials and farming livestock for food and contributing to soil erosion in many areas.

We are just overrun with them, courtesy of the British, who introduced the species via sailing ships back in the 1800's as 'hunting sport for their dogs'.

So, back in the 1950's, it was decided to wipe out all the rabbits in Australia, by using 'biological warfare' and a virus was created called 'myxomatosis'. This virus did unspeakable, cruel things to rabbits and eventually mutated into strains resistant to any anti-virals they were using at the time:

Myxomatosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Eventually, the virus crossed species and started to infect/affect our native wildlife, like those the rabbits were in competition with, while the rabbits started to breed an immunity towards the disease. It was a total disaster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myxomatosis#Spread_of_the_disease

Wow...that's just sick. Yet another reason why humans are the top candidates for the animal most worthy of extinction.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

Out of that list...we introduced most of those creatures or moved into their habitats...that's the thing...humans are the most invasive species in the world, yet we forget that.

 

[NobodyYouKnow]

6. Domesticated Cats

As cute and fluffy as they are, they are one of the most evil, vicious and cruel sadistic hunters out there, that will kill anything for 'sport'.

Cats are the only creatures besides humans (and sharks) who will actually kill for pleasure and they make no discrimination. An Indian Mynah (another creature on my 'animals for extinction list') or a rainbow lorikeet...a mouse (that too) or a tiny opossum, it makes no difference to a cat.

Some (most) councils in Australia require domesticated cats to be either kept indoors, or locked up in a cage outside.

I always feel sorry and sad when I see those cats locked up in cages, but I fully understand why they are, and the alternative is much worse...but still, it would be better if cats just...didn't exist at all.

As sad as it is, yeah, let's make cats extinct.