OK I bought it. I hope to remain a Christian.
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Should I read, "Why the Jews rejected Jesus?"
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IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
When you finish, please start a thread to discuss it. I'm interested in what the points are, and what your reaction is.
I'll try to remember to post it under the name of the book.When you finish, please start a thread to discuss it. I'm interested in what the points are, and what your reaction is.
I got the book in the mail today. I can see that it's serious about showing the Jewish perspective on rejecting Jesus and not the Messianic Jews. It could get heavy. If I can handle it, I'll try to read through it and then we can have a discussion.When you finish, please start a thread to discuss it. I'm interested in what the points are, and what your reaction is.
(I am reading so many books it will take a while, but waiting should be alright)
I am an Indigo Child too.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I've studied some things a lot so if the book tends to convince a lot of people it may still not have the same effect on me.When you finish, please start a thread to discuss it. I'm interested in what the points are, and what your reaction is.
The book says its fine with Christians it just is wary about Messianic Jews and Christian missionaries so if I'm ever to try to be a Jewish missionary it could be good to familiarize myself with the text at least first. (the Torah says I could deserve to be killed for that)When you finish, please start a thread to discuss it. I'm interested in what the points are, and what your reaction is.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The reason Messianic Jews are a special problem, is because they lie. Most would say they are practicing a form of Judaism, when in fact they are clearly Christian by religion. They have misappropriated things from Jewish religion and culture in an effort to lure in unsuspecting Jews, to whom they lie and say that "Jesus will make you more fully Jewish."
The reason Christian missionaries to the Jews is a problem should be obvious. Jews who become Christians, in addition to engaging in avodah zarah which is forbidden us (idolatry), are basically assimilated into the Gentile world. Even if the initial convert continues to say he is a Jew, by the time you get to his grandchildren, they no longer identify as Jews. His entire line is lost to Israel. Thus, these conversions to Christianity are threat to the Jewish people as a whole, to our survival.
I'm going to try to share my book today with some Rabbis in LA. It's got 263 Torah Geometry and Gematria patterns. Joseph Smith said the Torah began with the R. 50% of the patterns work only starting with a B, 40% work starting with either B or R. 10% work only starting with an R.
I hope I can explain that I'm just trying to help them get a lot of patterns and be pragmatic and that the book isn't about the teachings of Joseph Smith; just that one thing for R vs B.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I realize that many Jews are into gematria, but I am not one of them. It is far too easy to manipulate the numbers.
"One reason that Bible Codes have gone out of fashion is that mathematicians and statisticians have thoroughly, completely and convincingly disproved them. For example, Barry Simon of the Caltech mathematics department has shown that any sufficiently large text will have similar letter patterns in it. Famously, the same algorithms used in the Bible Codes yielded similarly “prophetic” results when used on Hebrew translations of “War and Peace.”
Bible Codes a Lie That Won’t Die
Recently, I had the pleasure of teaching at Limmud FSU (Former Soviet Union), the version of the wildly successful international learning conference geared toward Russian-speaking Jews. Held at a hotel outside Princeton University, the conference’s theme was science, with an emphasis on Albert...
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Well, I just got hung up on after 3 sentences by one temple in Los Angeles. One left.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
If synagogues are hanging up on you, then you need to examine what you are saying as to why it is inappropriate. What exactly are you saying in these three sentences?
I just said hi my name is and I have a book to share with you.
Maybe I could say I studied a lot of Hebrew and math in college before bringing up the book.
Maybe I could say its a commandment to know that God exists and not to exercise any view of God other than the eternal, and not to put the word of God to the test, and that my book helps with that.
If you want to help me here's my basic pitch:
Hi my name is. I have a book I want to show you. It's got 263 Torah geometry and gematria patterns, created or modified by me. I was hoping each of your Rabbis could look at 5 or 10 patterns each. Half of the patterns work with the Torah only starting with the letter B, 2/5th with either B or the second letter R, and 1/10 work with the R to start only. This is what Joseph Smith said (that it started with R), but this is not about Joseph Smith's teachings; it's just showing where I was able to find a lot of Torah patterns that work.
*also most of the patterns are centered around the first verse.
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