metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Absolutely false as the Arab states largely hated Bush according to polls taken when he was president. Please do the research before making such absurd claims.
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Should Kerry have lied about meeting with the PLO regarding the UN resolution
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tytlyf
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Let's examine it.
1. And the growth of the economy is still under performing (according to what?)
2. This is an "achievement" (a very important one)
3. Which is self-imploding and will be repelled and replaced (it's not imploding and can't be replaced with nothing)
4. Which has stymied the economic growth of the country and will be repelled (no it hasn't)
5. He extended President Bush's tax cuts. (you're against that?)
6. No he gave his permission for the mission after years of previous administrations intel gathering. Has sent more troops back into Iraq and Afghanistan. Suggested that his action cause the rise of ISIS (nope, Bush didn't want him, Saudi connections)
7. An accomplishment? (one that Trump won't be able to accomplish)
8. That one is going to bite him in the arse (? When? No examples, nothing. Iran is weaker now.)
9. Even the Hillary and labor unions thought this was a bad idea and will probably be renegotiated or cancelled (possibly)
10. Doesn't have any legs to stand on (climate change is real, thankfully we have experts who know more than you)
11. Labor participation rate is at miserable figures and most jobs created are part time and wages have stagnated due to his policies.(nope, unemployment rate is near record lows. economy is doing great)
So, what has he really achieved? (saved America from a republican regime disaster)
esmith
Veteran Member
http://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/08/23/the-part-time-economic-recovery
"The American economy remains weak. Growth is at the lowest level in more than three decades. We created 54,000 fewer jobs in April and May than originally estimated, and the 215,000 jobs in July did not change the picture of a weakening jobs market. Wages have been rising at the slowest pace since the 1980s."
Number 2 was received the Nobel Peace Prize. He received this in 2009, since then he has helped depose an leader of a country and destabilize that country. Surged troops into Afghanistan, increased troop presence in Iraq, authorized bombing missions in Syria, used drones to kill in different parts of the world, committed US military forces in Iraq in direct confrontations, sent SpecOps personnel into Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, different countries in Africa, and other areas of the world (I'm not in disagreement with all of these, just that it was the "Peace Prize".
Number 3 was Reformed Health Care. Even President Clinton said it is( and I quote) "the craziest thing in the world". Insurance companies are dropping out of the plan, doctors are dropping out of accepting ACA patients, young people are taking the penalty vice signing-up. It will be repealed and replaced and that is not "nothing"
Number 4 was regulated big banks. Dodd-Frank will be repelled and financial rules will be overhauld
No, but I see this as an accomplishment of President Bush and all the Obama did was extend them. If you want to call it an accomplishment it's fine with me.
Yes you are somewhat correct. We could have got him. Story is Boneheads
But since it's from your favorite boogyman media source it must be wrong.
Agree he did get re-elected in 2012. But saying that President-elect Trump will not win reelection is only speculation....which you seem to excel at.
Guess you really do not do any research.
Iran deal will haunt the Middle East in the future
Item 9 was about the TPP. Sure it's possible that the TPP will not be renegotiated but it is also possible and more than likely it will
Item 10 was International Climate Change Agreement. Sorry Charlie this agreement is not binding on the U.S. and was not approved by Congress.
Apple and oranges see Item 1 above for your edification.
Seems that the Republicans have done exceptional well in the years of the Obama. The Dem's are at their lowest number in all forms of government.
Now I will give you a real achievement of the Obama. He has been the driving factor in the increase of sales of firearms in history. He is firearm manufactures best salesman.
How say you now?
And I leave you with this
[GALLERY=media, 7838]Obama by esmith posted Jan 6, 2017 at 12:10 PM[/GALLERY]
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Thanda
Well-Known Member
It's like this hacking nonsense.
tytlyf
Not Religious
there's plenty of proof of russia hacking.
tytlyf
Not Religious
usnews.com isn't credible. But the economy is stronger now than when that piece was written. Wages haven't increased due to republicans.
It was awarded to him at the time.
None of that is true. Having something replaced with 'nothing' is still nothing. There is no republican plan. They want to go back to before the ACA. You must understand by now that republicans are in the pockets of the insurance co's right?
Take risks again right?
The recession had something to do with the extension.
The fact remains that Bush had many years to take care of it, Obama got it done.
It is speculation, maybe russia will hack again and give the information to republicans and their media.
I do, Iran has drastically had their nuclear weapon program dismantled.
I don't care for the TPP, but republicans do.
Doesn't matter if it's binding or not.
No
Yep, propaganda is powerful. Fake news and disinformation has been all over RW media. They even made movies about Obama/Hillary/ Benghazi in the theatres, hehe
Yep, it's easy to demonize a president and scare people into buying more guns and ammo. Is the NRA still lying to you? The NRA and manufacturers have found that if they scare the populace, that equates to more $$$.
I say you need to watch news sometime.
Thanda
Well-Known Member
Can you link me to some of it?
Thanda
Well-Known Member
Mandela spent 27 years in prison and helped prevent a civil war. What had Obama done "at the time" to earn a Nobel prize?
tytlyf
Not Religious
He was one of the greatest presidents the world has seen. Ask them.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Thanda
Well-Known Member
"At the time" (your words not mine) he had been president for only a few months. What exactly did he do in those two months that elevated him to being one of the greatest?
Thanda
Well-Known Member
Did you really just link me to an article about how the hacking story is fake news as a support for you argument that "there's plenty of proof of russia hacking."
tytlyf
Not Religious
Yes, there's evidence everywhere. Look into the russian hackers
Meet Fancy Bear, The Russian Group Hacking The US Election