Should we support Israel ?

[greatcalgarian]

Or your reactor may melt down and directly or indirectly kill thousands of people. Admittedly, it's hard to place a value on human life, so the possibility of a tsunami wrecking some stuff that can be fixed is a far more worrysome outcome.

There is alwasys a risk with nuclear reactor for generating electrical power. However, it is not more risky than a refinery. Just like people are worry about flying, but there are actually percentage wise, more travellers died on the road than in the air. It is usually a single tragic accident that caught people's eye. for example 9/11 where over 3000 people died, but no body care how many were dead all over the world in all those small scale battle.

 

[TommyN]

ofcouse Israel has no right to defend itself, except for the normal human rights,but as a country, no single reason to defend or support it...

Before 60 years ago, these lands were occupied by Palestinians, or arabs in general...And a simple question runs to my mind, where did these arabs go?
Either forced to leave the country, or died!
Those who are not lucky enough are living in hell there...Under flight strikes all the time, or when defending themselves are simply called terrorists , even if their attackes were against Israeli military forces...

While Israel is aquiring the most powerfull weopons in the region, Iran or any other country is actually not allowed to develop their weapons, regardless aquiring such nuks as Israel...

I can see obviously a worldwide support to Israel, which is according to my knowledge, the main reason for all the troubles in the region since it has been established...

Not to mention the documentry published in Israel few weeks ago, which showed how the Israeli army treated the Egyptian prisoners in 1967...Horrible, what happened in the desert there was horrible..

But no one cared....Sabra and Shateela, the town that had all its people killed by Sharons soldier, without any single response from the international community...

The last Lebanon war, which destroyed the infrastructure of a whole country without any mercy...

I dont also have to mention using illegal weapons through out all these wars..

If Israel wanted, it can just destroy the whole world with its nuks...

So, do we have to defend Israel?....Pretty tough question

First of all there has always been Jews living in Palestine. Always. Second of all the Jewish people never try to prove the bible is true and they certainly don't sacrifice their children to their god by taping the tanakh to their sides and blowing themselves up along with innocent bystanders. To the God of Life that is the most appalling thing. I guess they know that if the bible is true then God can prove it all on His own. Therefore God is the One we must know and submit to. Doesn't that make sense? Even animals try to hold on to Life when in danger. The God of Life teaches us to value and preserve Life. If not then why teach us about sin (the way of pain) in the first place? It wasn't the focus on sin He was after but it was negative He used to emphasized that which is important. Life. I also find it funny that you Quote and use the name of the quintessential Jew. Thank God for the Jewish people He sowed amongst us pagan gentiles without which this world would be a pretty backward place. In following our father Cain we have killed our own brothers. Abraham did not act this way. We have afflicted them, made up lies and, even killed them all in the name of made up self importance. Wow. May God and my brothers forgive me on the day we are judged.

" If my theory of relativity is proven sucessful, Germany will claim me as a German and France will declare that I am a citizen of the world. Should my theory prove untrue France will say that I am a German and Germany will declare that I am a Jew " Albert Einstein

 

[dogsgod]

I find it astonishing that there are so many on this forum who supports Iran becoming the next nuclear power in the world, while ignoring this counties threats to kill all the jewish people, the first chance they get.

Not supporting Israel sounds antisemitic to me. Should they be allowed to defend themselves with a preemptive strike or just wait till they get nuked first?

Should the U.S.A. allow Israel to fly over Iraq, or shoot down Israeli planes when they fly across?

Do we really have a right to tell the Israeli people they have no right to defend themselves? Can the Israelis really afford to have a wait and see attitude? They have endured enough in the last 70 years.

Actually it's Israel and the US that are threatening Iran. The notion that Iran is threatening anyone comes from Israel and US propaganda sources.

 

[sindbad5]

I find it astonishing that there are so many on this forum who supports Iran becoming the next nuclear power in the world,

for me, i'm not supporting Iran to have nukes, in fact i don't support having nukes for any country including super powers, and ofcourse including the EXTRAORDINARY SUPER POWER in this era of human kind "israel".

while ignoring this counties threats to kill all the jewish people, the first chance they get.

iran kill "jwish people?" you mean in the same way zionists kill "palestenian people", "egyptian people", "syrian people", "jordonian people", and "lebanese people" ? i doubt about that

Not supporting Israel sounds antisemitic to me.

Oh, Thank god

Should they be allowed to defend themselves with a preemptive strike or just wait till they get nuked first?

logic says attack iran and level it by the ground before thier speach and shouts reach israel and cause bad things to the zionists mood.

Should the U.S.A. allow Israel to fly over Iraq, or shoot down Israeli planes when they fly across?

hehehe, for your convenianvce usa allow israel to establish training and spinage camps in the heart of iraqi lands, usa gives israel the 2-ton bombs to throw it on lebanon, usa gives israel tenth of votes in the security council to protect it even from blaming, usa opens its treasures for zionists state to take as much as they can carrey to keep israel able to kill as much as it can from arabs.
in fact people in the mideast combined the 2 names of america and israel in 1 word "amricael", alwyes the 2 names are related in any catastrophy or atrocity, people alywes say "amrica and israel " do , kill, destroy, ocupey, insult, etc.

Do we really have a right to tell the Israeli people they have no right to defend themselves?

mmmm, nope

Can the Israelis really afford to have a wait and see attitude? They have endured enough in the last 70 years.

yeah, ofcourse zionists endured enaugh in the last 70 years, it's eanugh the bad feelings and nightmares come to some zionists because of these arab victims who are shout while being killed, they should cut thier tongues before killing them,
YAAA ALLAH