Shouldn't this be considered child abuse?

[Twilight Hue]

OK, look: if you want to respond to something I actually said, without the histrionics, maybe I'll reply to it.

I'm curious to see what your point actually is without all the artificial fluff.

Artificial fluff?

 

[Quagmire]

Artificial fluff?

So in other words, that's all there is.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So in other words, that's all there is.

No. Its really all about knee jerk reactions over instances that are fairly uncommon and the blanket manner by which parents are collectively vilified for no other reason than coming across a really fat kid who just so happened to have developed type 2 diabetes that just so made the medical records as the youngest so far.

The fact the child is so young suddenly becomes the springboard and poster child portraying a picture that things like this happens in every neighborhood and town like a roaring epidemic, warranting immediate, decisive, and invasive action because one of course must insure all the children living presently among the gawd awful abusive parents that abound in society today need to be brought to justice over the monsters that they are.

Ingorant parents? It's a givin. Sure.

Child Abuse? Like malicious intentional harm toward the child? I don't think so.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Child Abuse? Like malicious intentional harm toward the child? I don't think so.

But how could they not know what they were doing is very bad for their child? What were they thinking as their child reached 50 pounds? 60 pounds? But their child made it past 70 pounds, and the consequences became apparent. There is no way they could not know they were putting their child's health at great risk, especially with lots of restaurant food but especially with lots of candy.

 

[jeager106]

Child neglect; child endangering; still criminal and CPS needs get
involved.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think it is more like neglect than abuse. I don't see any intent to harm the child, but they were negligent. A child like this is suffering from malnutrition, no different than if they were starving.

Ya know....I was thinking the same thing, but I thought that before posting, I should check to see what's here.
Sure enuf, you beat me to it.......so you're smarter and faster.

 

[Twilight Hue]

But how could they not know what they were doing is very bad for their child? What were they thinking as their child reached 50 pounds? 60 pounds? But their child made it past 70 pounds, and the consequences became apparent. There is no way they could not know they were putting their child's health at great risk, especially with lots of restaurant food but especially with lots of candy.

I understand your position, and definitely agree It's not a healthy situation.

I'm viewing this as a case involving gross ignorance in light that sugar does not directly cause diabetes. That is a myth, and can be confirmed by the American Diabetes Association website. .

Obesity is a risk factor for developing diabetes, and of course hereditary factors are present as well. From my read of it, the ethnicity of the child is Hispanic as far as I garnered, and of course a risk group.

What I'm trying to get at with the debate is that in qualifying abuse in my view, typically involves malicious intent and directed intentional harm, and it dosent appear the parents were attempting to harm the child directly in that particular regard. Rather, it seems to me more a case of "killing with kindness" which is why I see it as a form of ignorance. A remedy for which education seems best fitting from what I understand of this.

 

[fantome profane]

Ya know....I was thinking the same thing, but I thought that before posting, I should check to see what's here.
Sure enuf, you beat me to it.......so you're smarter and faster.

Nah, just had nothing better to do on an Saturday afternoon.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Obesity is a risk factor for developing diabetes, and of course hereditary factors are present as well. From my read of it, the ethnicity of the child is Hispanic as far as I garnered, and of course a risk group.

A 70-pound three-year-old isn't obese, but morbidly obese. What were the parents thinking as the child gained all this weight? How could they not know the severe health risks, and why did they not take steps to remedy the issue before the child developed diabetes?

What I'm trying to get at with the debate is that in qualifying abuse in my view, typically involves malicious intent and directed intentional harm, and it dosent appear the parents were attempting to harm the child directly in that particular regard. Rather, it seems to me more a case of "killing with kindness" which is why I see it as a form of ignorance. A remedy for which education seems best fitting from what I understand of this.

How can it be "killing with kindness" when they had to know their child was not healthy? The average weight of a three-year-old is about 30-pounds, and this child was more than double that. How could they have been ignorant of the situation?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

We can also look at the reverse of the situation: a malnourished nourished child does qualify as neglect, and the child can be removed from the home. Why would it not be neglect in the case of morbid obesity (that isn't caused by genetic or thyroid disorders), as the health of the child is clearly being neglected?

 

[Twilight Hue]

A 70-pound three-year-old isn't obese, but morbidly obese. What were the parents thinking as the child gained all this weight? How could they not know the severe health risks, and why did they not take steps to remedy the issue before the child developed diabetes?

How can it be "killing with kindness" when they had to know their child was not healthy? The average weight of a three-year-old is about 30-pounds, and this child was more than double that. How could they have been ignorant of the situation?

Wish I could answer that. Seems only the parents can address the situation. You can get some type of idea however looking at comparative family situations involving child obesity like this one,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...l-6-scoffs-food-week-feed-entire-village.html

 

[Quagmire]

No. Its really all about knee jerk reactions over instances that are fairly uncommon and the blanket manner by which parents are collectively vilified for no other reason than coming across a really fat kid who just so happened to have developed type 2 diabetes that just so made the medical records as the youngest so far.

The fact the child is so young suddenly becomes the springboard and poster child portraying a picture that things like this happens in every neighborhood and town like a roaring epidemic, warranting immediate, decisive, and invasive action because one of course must insure all the children living presently among the gawd awful abusive parents that abound in society today need to be brought to justice over the monsters that they are.

Ingorant parents? It's a givin. Sure.

Child Abuse? Like malicious intentional harm toward the child? I don't think so.

So in other words, that's all there is.

 

[SkylarHunter]

Yep. Boy those parents must really really hate their kids to no end to do something so horrific and sadistic.

No, they don't hate their kids, but they don't care about them enough to put their well being in the first place either. They are uncaring, unfit parents who should not be allowed to keep their children.

I hear a lot about ignorance and that is true, a lot of people are not informed about nutrition. The thing is, we are in 2015 and everywhere I look I see people online on their many devices and the same way they log into social network and youtube, they could google important things like "good foods for children", "the dangers of junk food", "foods children shouldn't eat", etc, etc, etc. There are also plenty of great professionals available to help them figure things out. Given the easy access to information today, I don't find the ignorance excuse acceptable anymore.

All these obese children who have no idea what they are getting into because they aren't old enough to have that conscience yet, are going to suffer horribly in the future. Not only are they at very high risk for a number of life-threatening diseases, they will also suffer with body image issues, lack of confidence, etc. All that could be avoided if their parents had done their job of ... being parents.

 

[Penumbra]

We should do door to door searches of every household by heavily armed police. Drag obese kids out into into the streets, imprison the parents and problem solved. No?

No, that would be crazy.

On the other hand, this is rational:

Abuse or neglect, whatever this is I'd call it criminal. I mean literally, in the sense that I think the parent's should be court-mandated to attend parenting classes.