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Shouldn't you have to get 'baptized again', every time you leave/ reenter/Xianity?

Should you have to get baptized again every time you leave/return to the faith?


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Muffled

Jesus in me
It's more complicated than that. It's not that cut-and-dried biblically, nor is it that simple or clear in the ongoing Tradition (of which the bible is part, BTW). Baptism contains layers of meaning, and those meanings change over time. There is no one, "true" meaning.

Christianity is pan-cultural, and not all meanings are universal culturally. A meaning can't be forced onto a culture for whom the meaning is not important. For more on this phenomenon and how it affects the church, you should pick up a copy of Vince Donovan's Christianity Rediscovered.

I believe one ought to discern through the Holy Spirit what tradition is man made and which ones come from the Holy Spirit.

I believe people can conceptualize all kinds of meanings but being able to do so does not legitimize them.

I believe God has His own rules that override cultural beliefs.
 

Unification

Well-Known Member
The baptism is obviously conditional... As such, should not a person have to get baptized again ,every time they leave the faith, then join it again?

Exoteric baptism is just getting wet with water. In that case, I am baptized daily by taking a shower.

Internal baptism would be, the mind and heart being purified, cleansed by an energy/spirit/oil in the water/blood residing within the body. The inner "Christening" experience or revealing/coming of the "Christ."

I personally don't see an issue with exoteric baptism as long as one knows, experiences the inner baptism first. An external way of confirming the inward. When one is cleansed inwardly, their actions are reflected externally... how they interact with other human beings, their environment. I also personally don't see the exoteric being necessary, outside of a personal choice and hobby which is fine. It's their mind and choice. The internal would be what counts.

When one is inwardly set free, I would say that it wouldn't matter what exoteric things some others may demand under their own rules/terms.

It also can be very deceptive one thinking they are "saved" by getting wet with water. It many times, is a lie and hinders any inner growth. It may feel good but many feel goods are deceptive.
 
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Muffled

Jesus in me
Exoteric baptism is just getting wet with water. In that case, I am baptized daily by taking a shower.

Internal baptism would be, the mind and heart being purified, cleansed by an energy/spirit/oil in the water/blood residing within the body. The inner "Christening" experience or revealing/coming of the "Christ."

I personally don't see an issue with exoteric baptism as long as one knows, experiences the inner baptism first. An external way of confirming the inward. When one is cleansed inwardly, their actions are reflected externally... how they interact with other human beings, their environment. I also personally don't see the exoteric being necessary, outside of a personal choice and hobby which is fine. It's their mind and choice. The internal would be what counts.

When one is inwardly set free, I would say that it wouldn't matter what exoteric things some others may demand under their own rules/terms.

It also can be very deceptive one thinking they are "saved" by getting wet with water. It many times, is a lie and hinders any inner growth. It may feel good but many feel goods are deceptive.

I believe i can understand that. My baptism did not involve anything happening inward because those things had already happened. I do believe I filled a requirement of Jesus for the church to baptize people. Usually that means the person is waiting for the baptism to experience Jesus and makes more sense that way but it is just as reasonable as a testament of what happened internally already.

I think my grandchildren got baptized by making mental assent without having the spiritual experience. That leaves a person open to a change of mind which seems to have taken place.
 
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