"'Sickened by the silence': Western progressives accused of staying mute about Iran protests"

[Augustus]

An excellent article about the hypocrisy of some leftists and the two-faced approach they are taking toward human rights in Iran.

The article mentions the British opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn, who was literally in the pay of the Iranian government when he appeared repeatedly on Press TV which is one of many things that doesn't speak well for his judgement (alongside support for Hamas, Hezbollah and the IRA).

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't understand what the big deal is with the OP. We should stay completely away from Iran and let the protesters overthrow the existing hard-line government.

I like the stay away part.
Whatever will happen is up to them.

 

[icehorse]

I believe nations should promote their own self interest in international sphere. There is no world government with a constitution or anything, just a shifting alliance of various power blocks. So it's basically a "state of nature", might is right system. Within this context, there is no rational policy other than self-interest for various states.

Internally its different of course. Inside a nation, principles matter as we have a state, constitution, courts, police, rule of law etc. None of this exists in the international sphere as of yet.

Does anybody really think US is not pursuing its own agenda by trying to focus on Iran Protest?
Russia berates US for UN meeting on Iran

It strikes me that we're blending two discussions here:

1 - what should governments do?
2 - what should individuals do?

I see a lot of hypocrisy from individuals on the extreme left (regressive left is maybe better? not sure). BDS is a popular movement individuals on the extreme left, but it ignores what's happening to non-Muslims all through the ME. I think that most of the noise makers haven't really done their homework and that they hold positions that are largely indefensible, if pressed.

 

[sayak83]

It strikes me that we're blending two discussions here:

1 - what should governments do?
2 - what should individuals do?

I see a lot of hypocrisy from individuals on the extreme left (regressive left is maybe better? not sure). BDS is a popular movement individuals on the extreme left, but it ignores what's happening to non-Muslims all through the ME. I think that most of the noise makers haven't really done their homework and that they hold positions that are largely indefensible, if pressed.

In the OP, the sections you quoted were talking about EU and Canadian governments and government leaders. So I was speaking in the context of governments.

I have no idea what BDS. It's not mentioned in the OP.

 

[columbus]

In the OP, the sections you quoted were talking about EU and Canadian governments and government leaders. So I was speaking in the context of governments.

I have no idea what BDS. It's not mentioned in the OP.

I had to Google BDS too.

Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) is a Palestinian-led movement for freedom, justice and equality. BDS upholds the simple principle that Palestinians are entitled to the same rights as the rest of humanity.

is from their website.
Tom

 

[metis]

That still doesn't address the OP, though. What do you think justifies the inconsistent approach taken by some governments toward the protests and human rights abuses in Iran?

Because meddling from the outside only ends up causing a backlash that helps the hardliners. In general, M.E. experts tell us that it's best we pretty much remain low key.

Here in the West, I don't think either right nor left want the hardliners to win out, but unfortunately they likely will.

 

[oldbadger]

An excellent article about the hypocrisy of some leftists and the two-faced approach they are taking toward human rights in Iran.

When folks write about 'Leftists', 'Rightists' etc, you can be sure that the article is agenda driven Junk.

I found these two parts especially of note:
U.K. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, for instance, issued a statement calling on “all concerned” to refrain from violence.

Do you think that Mr Johnson is a Leftist? He's a British Conservative!
Did you know that Mr Johnson (after hurting her prospects with a mistaken remark in Parliament) is doing everything that he can to obtain the release of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe a Brit Dual National imprisoned in Iran for spying? I expect that one wrong comment from him would utterly scupper her chances at this time. Did you know that?

The regressive left are showing their true colors in circumstances like these.

No........ extreme agenda driven folks are showing political ignorance as they tell the World what to do from their armchairs.
Good Luck with that.

 

[sun rise]

I imagine if you're a conservative Shiite Muslim, you're just as free in Iran as a Conservative Christian is in the USA. America's not really that "free", we don't have universal healthcare, we don't have free education, heck, even Libya under Quadafi had that. I'd be surprised if Iran had as big a homeless problem as the "free" USA!! Muslims are very generous to the poor, moreso than Christians or US government.

I go back to the best statement of this that I could find: FDR's 4 freedoms - the USA fails bigly on #3 and does not do well on #4 if you're a member of certain groups.

1. Freedom of speech
2. Freedom of worship
3. Freedom from want
4. Freedom from fear