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Simple answer please

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Since when is there fear in love? Gods word says there is no fear in love.

I dont understand how you are missing what i am asking.

The denominations I listed, do they all believe in the trinity? Are they all false?

If there are some that are not, which names are false?

Example of an answer would be.

Baptist and quarker is false.

Thats it. No scripture. Thats a fake example.

If you arent familar with most of the denom i listed, you dont have to look them up to give me the name of that denom that fits the babylon the great.

The only answer i got was catholicism
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Every mortal has a form of love--but most do not have the love Jesus taught.
Babylon the great have charities that share food with the starving--is that love?
You are calling religion Babylon the Great. That might change. I do not call religion Babylon the Great. I think most charity work by religious organizations is love.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I dont understand how you are missing what i am asking.

The denominations I listed, do they all believe in the trinity? Are they all false?

If there are some that are not, which names are false?

Example of an answer would be.

Baptist and quarker is false.

Thats it. No scripture. Thats a fake example.

If you arent familar with most of the denom i listed, you dont have to look them up to give me the name of that denom that fits the babylon the great.

The only answer i got was catholicism
I do not know about other denominations. I know the JWs view every single religion but their own Babylon the Great. Even the religions that believe most of what they believe are destined to be destroyed by Jesus Christ.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
You are calling religion Babylon the Great. That might change. I do not call religion Babylon the Great. I think most charity work by religious organizations is love.

JW actually is a religion. They have a structure. Meet every sat. Go through the watch tower. Evangalize. Have a yearly nation wide, I think it is, get together with other JW. They do good things.

What to them, rather, about religion is bad?
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
I dont understand how you are missing what i am asking.

The denominations I listed, do they all believe in the trinity? Are they all false?

If there are some that are not, which names are false?

Example of an answer would be.

Baptist and quarker is false.

Thats it. No scripture. Thats a fake example.

If you arent familar with most of the denom i listed, you dont have to look them up to give me the name of that denom that fits the babylon the great.

The only answer i got was catholicism


I answered you simply-- every religion on earth besides the JW,s is false--they do not teach what Jesus taught.
here are 6 ultra important truths Jesus taught

Matt 6:33--therefore, keep on seeking-FIRST- the kingdom and his( Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added.( sustenance, covering, spirituality)
Matt 5:5--Blessed are the meek, for they( great multitude) will inherit the earth.
Lords prayer--Hallowed be thy( Father) name( Jehovah)--last line--The KINGDOM, POWER, and GLORY all belong to the Father( Jehovah)
John 20:17, Rev 3:12--Jesus teaches--he has a God-his Father---- so do his real teachers--Paul-2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 8:6, 1Cor 15:24-28--Peter at 1Peter 1:3---John at Rev 1:6
Jesus clearly teaches at John 17:1-6,26--The one who sent him( Father) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD--verse 6= Jehovah, 26= Jehovah
John 4:22-24--the bottom line reality of all truth that a true follower does daily.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
JW actually is a religion. They have a structure. Meet every sat. Go through the watch tower. Evangalize. Have a yearly nation wide, I think it is, get together with other JW. They do good things.

What to them, rather, about religion is bad?
They believe they are "the truth". Anything else is not the truth.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
You are calling religion Babylon the Great. That might change. I do not call religion Babylon the Great. I think most charity work by religious organizations is love.


One without insight could think that--but here is the problem----- if a religion belongs to Jesus and they give sustenance to the starving then why don't they teach this ultra important truth along with that sustenance( temp fix) --Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking first the kingdom and his( Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)( permanent fix)

a promise from Jesus at Matt 6 that if one applied this single teaching, the Father would provide those 3 things daily if needed.--- so in reality--the givers of sustenance without that teaching alongside of it have failed Jesus and the one seeking. they seek a pat on the back from mortal hearts instead of providing the permanent fix.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
One without insight could think that--but here is the problem----- if a religion belongs to Jesus and they give sustenance to the starving then why don't they teach this ultra important truth along with that sustenance( temp fix) --Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking first the kingdom and his( Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)( permanent fix)

a promise from Jesus at Matt 6 that if one applied this single teaching, the Father would provide those 3 things daily if needed.--- so in reality--the givers of sustenance without that teaching alongside of it have failed Jesus and the one seeking. they seek a pat on the back from mortal hearts instead of providing the permanent fix.
I believe in the true religion and maybe the Bible Students started with some good intentions. But now they teach that we are to put the JW Society first. This is the truth please do not deny it. According to JW teaching a person CAN'T be putting the Kingdom and Jehovah's righteousness first if they do not join you. Join you FIRST, then put God's righteousness second, after that.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
Whats wrong with bashing faiths? People bash politics and choice of comedy all the time, why should religion be exempt? Im more than happy when someone tries to bash my agnosticism because that leads to a discussion. Im happy when im proved wrong because that means im no longer believing something incorrect and i appreciate any contribution to the sum of my knowledge. Plus bashing can often be funny and someone bashing something stupid i believe in could make me amused.

The only people who dislike faith bashing are those who are very insecure in their defense of their beliefs, or worried that the reasons they believe are so illogical that at the slightest moment of debate, their fundamental beliefs will fall apart.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Why are all the religions wrong? I know catholicism and its off shoots are off. What about baptist? Whats wrong with them "other than the trinity"? What about LDS?

I havent heard of a religion that says bluntly thry are the only ones right. Even catholicism agknowedges that people are saved without the Church. (Which is kinda new)

Most denomni does not deny anyone salvation regardless of how they practice. Instead, they say that they are saved AND are practicing wrong.

What youre saying is no one is a christian unless they are JW. In my opinion, thats a worst statement than catholics and they have their strict views to--but not to the point of belittling another persons faith in christ

Thats horrible.


I answered you simply-- every religion on earth besides the JW,s is false--they do not teach what Jesus taught.
here are 6 ultra important truths Jesus taught

Matt 6:33--therefore, keep on seeking-FIRST- the kingdom and his( Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added.( sustenance, covering, spirituality)
Matt 5:5--Blessed are the meek, for they( great multitude) will inherit the earth.
Lords prayer--Hallowed be thy( Father) name( Jehovah)--last line--The KINGDOM, POWER, and GLORY all belong to the Father( Jehovah)
John 20:17, Rev 3:12--Jesus teaches--he has a God-his Father---- so do his real teachers--Paul-2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 8:6, 1Cor 15:24-28--Peter at 1Peter 1:3---John at Rev 1:6
Jesus clearly teaches at John 17:1-6,26--The one who sent him( Father) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD--verse 6= Jehovah, 26= Jehovah
John 4:22-24--the bottom line reality of all truth that a true follower does daily.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
I believe in the true religion and maybe the Bible Students started with some good intentions. But now they teach that we are to put the JW Society first. This is the truth please do not deny it. According to JW teaching a person CAN'T be putting the Kingdom and Jehovah's righteousness first if they do not join you. Join you FIRST, then put God's righteousness second, after that.


We find at Luke 10:16-- that those who listen to Jesus' anointed teachers are as well listening to Jesus and God-- so the opposite is true as well--Those who reject Jesus' anointed teachers are rejecting Jesus and God as well. So then wouldn't it be wise to join up and listen to Jesus' anointed teachers--and then one would realize that is part of seeking the kingdom first.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
We find at Luke 10:16-- that those who listen to Jesus' anointed teachers are as well listening to Jesus and God-- so the opposite is true as well--Those who reject Jesus' anointed teachers are rejecting Jesus and God as well. So then wouldn't it be wise to join up and listen to Jesus' anointed teachers--and then one would realize that is part of seeking the kingdom first.
Maybe he meant the APOSTLES. Most of us listen to the apostles. They were appointed by Jesus Christ, not self-appointed like governing body members.

Acts 20:29
I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Why are all the religions wrong? I know catholicism and its off shoots are off. What about baptist? Whats wrong with them "other than the trinity"? What about LDS?

I havent heard of a religion that says bluntly thry are the only ones right. Even catholicism agknowedges that people are saved without the Church. (Which is kinda new)

Most denomni does not deny anyone salvation regardless of how they practice. Instead, they say that they are saved AND are practicing wrong.

What youre saying is no one is a christian unless they are JW. In my opinion, thats a worst statement than catholics and they have their strict views to--but not to the point of belittling another persons faith in christ

Thats horrible.


Luke 10:16--those who reject Jesus' anointed teachers are rejecting Jesus and God as well.
Baptist--segregated churches all through the bible belt--Why--Love or hate?
I attended a Baptist church years ago, the minister said if I said 3 lines of prayer with him, I was born again( saved) --yet I was a drug addict, drug dealer, drunkard, fornicator and thief--was he telling the truth? No.
The world didn't hate Jesus, apostles and Christians for teaching--Love, peace and the good news of the kingdom, they hated them enough to murder all of them for exposing the false gods, false religions and pagan practices instilled into the traditions and celebrations.
Jesus taught if one became his follower they would be hated and that ones own family members would be their enemies( spiritually)John 17:14--Matt 10:36
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Maybe he meant the APOSTLES. Most of us listen to the apostles. They were appointed by Jesus Christ, not self-appointed like governing body members.

Acts 20:29
I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.


Who really is the faithful and discreet slave( Jesus anointed teachers in the last days)whom his master( Jesus) has appointed over his domestics( flock) to give them their food( spiritual) at the proper time.--- Jesus appointed them. Matt 24:45-47

Yes to Acts 20:29------ after Jesus and the apostles and Christians were all murdered--this rose-2Thess 2:3--but Even in Peters letters lies were getting in. But in the last days Jesus anointed teachers are back or this would never be possible-Daniel 12:4--John 4:22-24
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Who really is the faithful and discreet slave( Jesus anointed teachers in the last days)whom his master( Jesus) has appointed over his domestics( flock) to give them their food( spiritual) at the proper time.--- Jesus appointed them. Matt 24:45-47
How do you know that the faithful and discreet slave isn't the helper Jesus promised to send then in the first century?
John 14:16 John 15:26 John 16:7 John 16:8
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Acts 1:4
On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: "Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.
Romans 8:26
In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans.
1 John 2:27
As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.
2 John 1:2
because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever:
 
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