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Simple.... WHY BUDDHISM?

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
Friend Zen,

Buddhism has certainly always struck the mind as a reform or perhaps more appropriately a revolution of the Sanatan Dharma, a reaction/response to the people's attachment to the system, rather than the Truths present there in.

Perhaps Zenzero there is something that could be added about what Buddha 'rejected' when He did so with the Vedas?

There has been much talk here about this, in other posts, but You touched upon the 'open ended system' that is The Sanatan Dharma and have felt similar inklings.

:namaste
SageTree
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend Sagetree,

Thank you for your request.
Sorry am not familiar with scriptures with of any paths, but do understand that those who discuss about sanatan dharma's close endedness or of Gautam's rejection of dharma has brought in their own personal MINDs into it. In the state of no-mind all are linked together seamlessly and all that one needs is deep meditation over such subjects.

Fopr general understanding kindly understand that the word SANATAN means eternal and that DHARMA means laws of existence. So sanatan dharma is nothing but laws of existence and all that followers have found various ways to be in tune with the laws of existence and thousands have put them down which is the basis of sanatan dharma.
Gautama became frustrated as all the gurus he met for his guidance themselves where not enlightened and so never able to guide him properly not that he was not convinced in theory. However as we know that since he was destined or rather his past karma's had prepared him for this he found enlightenment through his own efforts which was no-effort. In his relaxation after getting fed by a native girl under the bodhi tree when he laid without any tension without nay worry without pangs of hunger without the stress of enlightenment that he truly became enlightenment and so it is labelled the middle path.
It is not negating the efforts of the thousand who have found enlightenment which were there in the vedas etc. but evolved it and added another dimension to it.
TRUTH can never be wrong it remains such such always a latest method of looking at it is always possible and that is evolution to adapt to the existing system which is newer/latest/different only in appearance of perception but basically remains the same. The final experience remains the same.

However if you have found anything otherwise am open to discuss the same.

Love & rgds
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
ZZ,

It's understood about the 'rejection/closedness' point that was made.

Often discussed is the over lapping of terms present in the philosophies and how they are defined and redefined.

This sort of thing draws the intuitive feeling that 'maybe it's because they aren't different', not to talk down about any understanding other wise held in ideal or of value, but in keeping with the thought, on the other hand perhaps these very terms were chosen to help shift a paradigm from paying more attention to ritual and shifting the focus once again to Truth, which was the suggestion mentioned in the post before.

Does that seem copacetic with the evolution theory presented?

:namaste
ST
 
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zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend SageTree,

Not sure that have understood your question properly; however maybe the following is of some help:

The biggest problem is that no-mind is no-mind; meaning the perceiver does not exists as the perceiver and the perceived are one REALITY.
But to share that moments of oneness with other is a difficult thing as there is no language to explain IT. At best one takes help of existing modes of communication signs and languages available to convey it.
BUT again the problem is that the person to whom it is explained are in the MINDS which perceive things according to its own past/present/future desires/karma etc and so a gap remains.
Gautama's efforts had been to make the individual reach that state on his own and he provided each pointers .
Sanatan dharma from whose background Gautama came from too had similar ways but was focused more on training the mind to reach to no-mind.
Gautama went a step further and dharma got evolved through him in a way that now the focus has shifted to the mind. Discipline/training is just to remain aware/conscious of the mind's doing. Not to control the mind, till then dharma practitioners were trying to control the mind itself towards remaining in the no-mind. Gautama discovered that just by being relaxed one just needs to be aware that just by being un-attached with the minds activities transcendence happens.

Thereafter is what the 10th card of bulls read:
Inside my gate, a thousand sages do not know me. The beauty of my garden is invisible. Why should one search for the footprints of the patriarchs? I go to the market place with my wine bottle and return home with my staff. I visit the wineshop and the market, and everyone I look upon becomes enlightened

Love & rgds
 

Mr Orange

Meditate
Friend Mr Orange,



Your response to friend no-body remains incomplete.
Besides though you have declared your religion as buddhism you yourself have not explained why?

Personally do not segregate between any religions as they all paths or ways to reach the same state of buddhahood or christhood etc. and no-way is the way that follow.

Love & rgds

Friend Zenzero,

Why am i Buddhist, (to cut the story short) I began seaching for the truth i attended several different types of christian churchs all claiming to be the truth a lot of them being very conservative in their beliefs (im very liberal minded and challenged their views due to my disagreement) I then looked into Sikhism and learnt a lot about guru nanak and i became aware of karma and the five evils. I then traveled with work to some 3rd world countrys i became discusted with god allowing such sufferings and i became an atheist. I later got introduced by a friend to a Buddhist Centre (FWBO) And the search continues.

I class myself as Buddhist due to the fact i practise it and attend meetings. I use the term Buddhist loosly due to the many schools of it and i believe we can learn many things from them so why 'brand it' ? as mahayana or zen etc...

So why am i Buddhist...? due to search.

Blessings

Sorry for the late reply
 
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