Six Muslim men sentenced to jail, fine for going to waterfall instead of Friday prayers

[FearGod]

The problem isn't religion, the problem is the followers of the religion. Unfortunately they justify their ideology by their religion. As long as they claim it as the only truth there's no reasoning with them. I suppose the concept of monotheism maybe to blame. Perhaps we'd be better off with multiple gods.

Not all followers but some crazy ones.

 

[Nakosis]

Not all followers but some crazy ones.

We're all crazy IMO. I don't have a problem with crazy. The problem is when folks insist everyone else be the same kind of crazy as them.

 

[FearGod]

We're all crazy IMO. I don't have a problem with crazy. The problem is when folks insist everyone else be the same kind of crazy as them.

And the worst thing is using force in doing so.

 

[Rival]

There's no verse in the quran that says punish those who don't pray in Friday, the problem
is with the human's mind and not the religion, Jews used to punish those who were working
on Saturdays and Jesus opposed them and used to call the Pharisees as hypocrites.

The law is not to work on the seventh day.

 

[Firemorphic]

Seriously one of the strangest news stories I've ever heard in my life

 

[Vinayaka]

Faire la bise in france it depends on the area. I assume the local custom varies in every country the practice is practiced ;-)

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Mauritius, strongly influenced by French culture, had that greeting habit. Over three months, I never did get used to it. I did learn to tolerate it ... barely.

 

[Vinayaka]

Under its constitution, Malaysia has a dual legal system, both a general, secular legal system (modelled on that of the former British colonial power) and Sharia law. The latter is applicable only to muslims and is restricted in its powers. It seems it is this that these men have fallen foul of.

More here: Law of Malaysia - Wikipedia

What is perhaps alarming is that this may be a sign of more puritanical enforcement of rules that apparently were not applied strictly in the past.

For traveling, it's rated really safe. I have friends who just spent 6 weeks there. We plan to go within a year or two. Inexpensive as heck too. Not sure how they know ho is Muslim and who isn't though. I'd like to know that. Maybe they will just accept me saying I'm not.

 

[FearGod]

The law is not to work on the seventh day.

And those who didn't follow the law and worked in the
Sabbath were stoned to death.

 

[Rival]

And those who didn't follow the law and worked in the
Sabbath were stoned to death.

Right.

 

[ChristineM]

Mauritius, strongly influenced by French culture, had that greeting habit. Over three months, I never did get used to it. I did learn to tolerate it ... barely.

Never been but it is the 'vacances' destination of choice in these parts so im sure we will be going sometime in the nit to distant future.

It happens in the UK only occasionally so when we moved to france it took some getting used to cheek kissing. After a year or so if became natural that if you meet a friend somewhere kisses happen, in the street, houses, even supermarket checkout queues.

 

[Earthtank]

I've been watching the Muslims... I see them everyday, hanging out with each other, sometimes groups of 5 to 10 guys... Never any women around them, and then I see them kissing each others cheeks in the parking garage.

...Weirdos.

You are watching and stalking them ("weirdos") and they are the weirdos? Kettle calling the pot black?

 

[Vinayaka]

For traveling, it's rated really safe. I have friends who just spent 6 weeks there. We plan to go within a year or two. Inexpensive as heck too.

Never been but it is the 'vacances' destination of choice in these parts so im sure we will be going sometime in the nit to distant future.

It happens in the UK only occasionally so when we moved to france it took some getting used to cheek kissing. After a year or so if became natural that if you meet a friend somewhere kisses happen, in the street, houses, even supermarket checkout queues.

I got a great kick out of the elderly French tourists. We stayed in a tourist town where a friend found me the place. It was a cultural pilgrimage for us, as my Hindu sampradaya has many members there. My friend was wise enough to get us a place near the beach and a great grocery store so we had the best of both worlds. Public busing is great and there are tons of little temples all over the island.

But the amazing thing about the French tourists on Pereybere Beach was that they would stick a couple of cigarettes in their hats, along with a lighter, wade in the calm waters (there is a coral reef surrounding the entire island, so no big waves) up to their necks, then all light up, and have a morning visit. Every day for the entire time, maybe 6 weeks or more. Many owned vacation property.

French bread everywhere, as well as a lot of vino.

 

[FearGod]

For traveling, it's rated really safe. I have friends who just spent 6 weeks there. We plan to go within a year or two. Inexpensive as heck too. Not sure how they know ho is Muslim and who isn't though. I'd like to know that. Maybe they will just accept me saying I'm not.

There's some terror, watch the video clip.

 

[ChristineM]

I got a great kick out of the elderly French tourists. We stayed in a tourist town where a friend found me the place. It was a cultural pilgrimage for us, as my Hindu sampradaya has many members there. My friend was wise enough to get us a place near the beach and a great grocery store so we had the best of both worlds. Public busing is great and there are tons of little temples all over the island.

But the amazing thing about the French tourists on Pereybere Beach was that they would stick a couple of cigarettes in their hats, along with a lighter, wade in the calm waters (there is a coral reef surrounding the entire island, so no big waves) up to their necks, then all light up, and have a morning visit. Every day for the entire time, maybe 6 weeks or more. Many owned vacation property.

French bread everywhere, as well as a lot of vino.

The french have many strange customs ;-)

When we came here we had a cultural tutor for a year. Something of an eye opener. Joining in with some of the weirder customs helps integration no end.

 

[Vinayaka]

There's some terror, watch the video clip.

I'm not into night life, and night life is more dangerous everywhere. Yes, if you want to go to certain places, or regions, it would be dangerous. Do you live there?

 

[FearGod]

I'm not into night life, and night life is more dangerous everywhere. Yes, if you want to go to certain places, or regions, it would be dangerous. Do you live there?

No I don't, but I know some friends who enjoyed being there.

 

[loverofhumanity]

So much for Surah 2:256.

Good point. They have abandoned the Quran and replaced it with their own brand of Islam.

 

[Cooky]

You are watching and stalking them ("weirdos") and they are the weirdos? Kettle calling the pot black?

I'm watching in the elevator, in the hallway... I'm watching everyone, all the time...
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[LuisDantas]

Good point. They have abandoned the Quran and replaced it with their own brand of Islam.

I don't think so. Surah 2:256 is unsustainable when it attempts to reconcile itself with the Qur'an as a whole. Or even with its own surrounding verses.

There is a reason why it is always that specific Surah that is brought up. It is quite the oddity from a Quranic perspective, and meant to be invoked then promptly forgotten.

And it shows.

 

[Shad]

Imagine being born Muslim in Malaysia. You'd be stuck with Islam/syariah law for life. Your belief being forced upon you by the state/legal system.

Pretty much. That is what happens when a supremacist religion takes power backed by arrogant leaders