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Six Types of Textbook Trolls — The Internet for Dummies

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Whether on Internet forums, social media, or anywhere else on the Internet, these six types of (intentional or unintentional) trolls galore. Thankfully, they are easier to spot nowadays because of how long their tactics have been in use. These are some of the most brilliant ways to barge into a debate, as I'm sure we have all seen before:

1) The Concern/"Unbiased" Troll: Usually joins in a debate to offer a "fair" or "balanced" perspective by pretending to be neutral when in reality they merely seek to use neutrality as a springboard to advance their own agenda.

Example: "I know this other poster is advocating genocide, but can we please take a moment to understand his perspective and be respectful toward it? No need to dismiss another's opinion!"

2) The Sophisticated Troll: Tries to make a rather evident and crystal-clear fact seem more complicated or obscure than it actually is in order to give legitimacy to false, misleading, or inaccurate arguments—usually attempting to make their argument sound sophisticated in the process.

This type of troll's posts may or may not consist of an incoherent word salad.

Example: "You claim that the scientific consensus is that the Earth is not flat, but you shouldn't be so black and white in your thinking. There's more to the data than this. If you read the article backwards and say ten Hail Marys, I'm sure you will arrive at a different conclusion."

3) The Cut-to-the-Chase Troll: Skips any nuances an argument may have and instead rushes straight to the part that supports their preconceived notions, often brushing aside the nuances that don't serve their perspective.

Contrary to a Sophisticated Troll, this kind of troll oversimplifies an actually complicated issue—and may or may not also engage in Sophisticated Trolling in other instances where it serves their interests.

Example: "There's no need to read any of these 150 scientific papers about the subject when I can just guess, based on the two YouTube videos I've watched, that you and everyone who disagrees with me are simply wrong about this."

4) The Edgelord/Politically Incorrect Troll: Tries to seem edgy, "politically incorrect," or "honest" by being intentionally offensive and immune to factual reasoning. Usually seems to think that being "politically incorrect" is a synonym for being smart or brave.

In reality, this type of troll usually just thumps their chest and seeks attention using middle-school-level rhetoric.

Example: "Arabs suck. Black people suck. White people are idiots. And I'm actually an alien from space who thinks you earthlings are all offended so easily. Cowards!!1"

5) The Self-Proclaimed Woke/Politically Correct Troll: Thinks that since they know a few things about all of two social justice issues, they are the next incarnation of Martin Luther King. Typically relies on recycling and overusing a few buzzwords to serve their own status and shut down criticism they don't like without actually offering a reasoned argument.

Example: "If you don't think that this is an example of culturally appropriating, racist, xenophobic, supremacist, nationalist coulrophobia, you should check your privilege. And I say so as a self-proclaimed privileged authority on the two issues we're talking about."

6) The Tone Police/Linguistic Expert Troll: Ignores the factual and logical aspects of a discussion or debate in favor of picking out which words they find inappropriate, too offensive, too inoffensive, or otherwise unacceptable. May or may not have issues with paragraphing, punctuation, grammar, and spelling themselves, but they don't care as long as it's them and nobody else.

Example: "Troll: That was such a rude thing to say. Your wrong to use this word instead of synonyms X, Y, and Z.

Normal person: you're*

Troll: Stop focusing on my spelling and read my argument instead. So stupid omg!"
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Whether on Internet forums, social media, or anywhere else on the Internet, these six types of (intentional or unintentional) trolls galore. Thankfully, they are easier to spot nowadays because of how long their tactics have been in use. These are some of the most brilliant ways to barge into a debate, as I'm sure we have all seen before:

1) The Concern/"Unbiased" Troll: Usually joins in a debate to offer a "fair" or "balanced" perspective by pretending to be neutral when in reality they merely seek to use neutrality as a springboard to advance their own agenda.

Example: "I know this other poster is advocating genocide, but can we please take a moment to understand his perspective and be respectful toward it? No need to dismiss another's opinion!"

2) The Sophisticated Troll: Tries to make a rather evident and crystal-clear fact seem more complicated or obscure than it actually is in order to give legitimacy to false, misleading, or inaccurate arguments—usually attempting to make their argument sound sophisticated in the process.

This type of troll's posts may or may not consist of an incoherent word salad.

Example: "You claim that the scientific consensus is that the Earth is not flat, but you shouldn't be so black and white in your thinking. There's more to the data than this. If you read the article backwards and say ten Hail Marys, I'm sure you will arrive at a different conclusion."

3) The Cut-to-the-Chase Troll: Skips any nuances an argument may have and instead rushes straight to the part that supports their preconceived notions, often brushing aside the nuances that don't serve their perspective.

Contrary to a Sophisticated Troll, this kind of troll oversimplifies an actually complicated issue—and may or may not also engage in Sophisticated Trolling in other instances where it serves their interests.

Example: "There's no need to read any of these 150 scientific papers about the subject when I can just guess, based on the two YouTube videos I've watched, that you and everyone who disagrees with me are simply wrong about this."

4) The Edgelord/Politically Incorrect Troll: Tries to seem edgy, "politically incorrect," or "honest" by being intentionally offensive and immune to factual reasoning. Usually seems to think that being "politically incorrect" is a synonym for being smart or brave.

In reality, this type of troll usually just thumps their chest and seeks attention using middle-school-level rhetoric.

Example: "Arabs suck. Black people suck. White people are idiots. And I'm actually an alien from space who thinks you earthlings are all offended so easily. Cowards!!1"

5) The Self-Proclaimed Woke/Politically Correct Troll: Thinks that since they know a few things about all of two social justice issues, they are the next incarnation of Martin Luther King. Typically relies on recycling and overusing a few buzzwords to serve their own status and shut down criticism they don't like without actually offering a reasoned argument.

Example: "If you don't think that this is an example of culturally appropriating, racist, xenophobic, supremacist, nationalist coulrophobia, you should check your privilege. And I say so as a self-proclaimed privileged authority on the two issues we're talking about."

6) The Tone Police/Linguistic Expert Troll: Ignores the factual and logical aspects of a discussion or debate in favor of picking out which words they find inappropriate, too offensive, too inoffensive, or otherwise unacceptable. May or may not have issues with paragraphing, punctuation, grammar, and spelling themselves, but they don't care as long as it's them and nobody else.

Example: "Troll: That was such a rude thing to say. Your wrong to use this word instead of synonyms X, Y, and Z.

Normal person: you're*

Troll: Stop focusing on my spelling and read my argument instead. So stupid omg!"

I have met the enemy and I have been all of them...........
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Whether on Internet forums, social media, or anywhere else on the Internet, these six types of (intentional or unintentional) trolls galore. Thankfully, they are easier to spot nowadays because of how long their tactics have been in use. These are some of the most brilliant ways to barge into a debate, as I'm sure we have all seen before:

1) The Concern/"Unbiased" Troll: Usually joins in a debate to offer a "fair" or "balanced" perspective by pretending to be neutral when in reality they merely seek to use neutrality as a springboard to advance their own agenda.

Example: "I know this other poster is advocating genocide, but can we please take a moment to understand his perspective and be respectful toward it? No need to dismiss another's opinion!"

2) The Sophisticated Troll: Tries to make a rather evident and crystal-clear fact seem more complicated or obscure than it actually is in order to give legitimacy to false, misleading, or inaccurate arguments—usually attempting to make their argument sound sophisticated in the process.

This type of troll's posts may or may not consist of an incoherent word salad.

Example: "You claim that the scientific consensus is that the Earth is not flat, but you shouldn't be so black and white in your thinking. There's more to the data than this. If you read the article backwards and say ten Hail Marys, I'm sure you will arrive at a different conclusion."

3) The Cut-to-the-Chase Troll: Skips any nuances an argument may have and instead rushes straight to the part that supports their preconceived notions, often brushing aside the nuances that don't serve their perspective.

Contrary to a Sophisticated Troll, this kind of troll oversimplifies an actually complicated issue—and may or may not also engage in Sophisticated Trolling in other instances where it serves their interests.

Example: "There's no need to read any of these 150 scientific papers about the subject when I can just guess, based on the two YouTube videos I've watched, that you and everyone who disagrees with me are simply wrong about this."

4) The Edgelord/Politically Incorrect Troll: Tries to seem edgy, "politically incorrect," or "honest" by being intentionally offensive and immune to factual reasoning. Usually seems to think that being "politically incorrect" is a synonym for being smart or brave.

In reality, this type of troll usually just thumps their chest and seeks attention using middle-school-level rhetoric.

Example: "Arabs suck. Black people suck. White people are idiots. And I'm actually an alien from space who thinks you earthlings are all offended so easily. Cowards!!1"

5) The Self-Proclaimed Woke/Politically Correct Troll: Thinks that since they know a few things about all of two social justice issues, they are the next incarnation of Martin Luther King. Typically relies on recycling and overusing a few buzzwords to serve their own status and shut down criticism they don't like without actually offering a reasoned argument.

Example: "If you don't think that this is an example of culturally appropriating, racist, xenophobic, supremacist, nationalist coulrophobia, you should check your privilege. And I say so as a self-proclaimed privileged authority on the two issues we're talking about."

6) The Tone Police/Linguistic Expert Troll: Ignores the factual and logical aspects of a discussion or debate in favor of picking out which words they find inappropriate, too offensive, too inoffensive, or otherwise unacceptable. May or may not have issues with paragraphing, punctuation, grammar, and spelling themselves, but they don't care as long as it's them and nobody else.

Example: "Troll: That was such a rude thing to say. Your wrong to use this word instead of synonyms X, Y, and Z.

Normal person: you're*

Troll: Stop focusing on my spelling and read my argument instead. So stupid omg!"

Man, you're going to have to start deleting 90% of the posts on this forum. :D
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
My troll hero....
Capitalista

Real interesting site.

Atheist is Deacon's cyber-doppelganger. Deacon and Atheist hold equally fervent, though diametrically opposed beliefs about religion, and both feel compelled to share those beliefs at every possible opportunity. Should an unsuspecting forum member make even a passing comment about faith or spirituality of any flavor, Atheist will descend like one of the Furies, mercilessly hectoring all of the ignorant and delusional believers about the sordid history of the church and the pernicious effects of religion on society. After a few of Atheist’s anti-religious jeremiads most other Warriors will avoid the subject altogether, though Evil Clown may egg him on a little, and Philosopher may amuse himself by pointing out flaws in his reasoning. If a forum has the misfortune of having both Deacon and Atheist as members, the bickering often continues until Nanny or Admin pulls the plug. Bliss Ninny can also sometimes squelch the conversation by saying, “Well, everyone has a right to their [sic] opinion.”

Atheist
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Man! @Debater Slayer you called me out. I was undercover for four years. Maybe I just create one more thread, make two comments, and split. That or join a thread to say two completely unrelated phrases hoping someone would call me in it to attack.

Cheers and hugs,

Carlita
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Real interesting site.

Atheist is Deacon's cyber-doppelganger. Deacon and Atheist hold equally fervent, though diametrically opposed beliefs about religion, and both feel compelled to share those beliefs at every possible opportunity. Should an unsuspecting forum member make even a passing comment about faith or spirituality of any flavor, Atheist will descend like one of the Furies, mercilessly hectoring all of the ignorant and delusional believers about the sordid history of the church and the pernicious effects of religion on society. After a few of Atheist’s anti-religious jeremiads most other Warriors will avoid the subject altogether, though Evil Clown may egg him on a little, and Philosopher may amuse himself by pointing out flaws in his reasoning. If a forum has the misfortune of having both Deacon and Atheist as members, the bickering often continues until Nanny or Admin pulls the plug. Bliss Ninny can also sometimes squelch the conversation by saying, “Well, everyone has a right to their [sic] opinion.”

Atheist
Evil Clown & Zen Master are also faves.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
How to be a fake troll: (From the self-declared False Troll King, no less)

1) Tackle any subject in an adversarial stance with the purpose of enlightenment for all. Even your own beliefs and thoughts are amusing.

2) Forgo making friends on the forums, they're dead weight and will expect you to conform to their beliefs eventually anyway. This just gets in your way, they'll turn on you in the end.

3) When people inject their emotions into the conversation, respond by being a stern parent-type figure that keeps talking about the issue not their feelings. It reminds them that they didn't have a parent, the real cause of the emotional displays on the Internet. It isn't your fault that they are bound to emotions over logic or sensibility, but you can give them 'love' and maybe set them on the right path. Eventually, even they will grow up then you won't have to do this.

4) Challenge any and all beliefs on the basis that all of them are made up or will change anyway. Anyone believing otherwise is lying to themselves, it is your job to make sure they know this. In the end, you'll be right anyway, they'll change.

5) Anyone that takes issue with your spelling or mastery of a subject is wrong. Spell worse and keep defining your beliefs even more to infuriate them as they diverge. Your beliefs will never line up with anyone else's perfectly, so it's it's a perfect time to bait them into discussing the nuances. They will keep typing and you will find out that even they don't believe what they claim to believe. Endless amusement for them and you!


Anyway, this was to be funny only... :D
 
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sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I had a truly evil thought. Comes up with a spreadsheet that lists all of these on one axis and all of us on another. Allow everyone to vote about where to place themselves and everyone else. Ask that all decisions be justified by zero to many reasons depending on your own troll nature.
 

Frater Sisyphus

Contradiction, irrationality and disorder
Simply insult Debate Slayer for creating this thread, repeatedly presupposing that he is an idiot and should kill himself - or quoting his points, only to tell him that he spelt 'they're' wrong. Or quoting this very post, to tell me that I have a bad understanding of troll etiquette and that I have never encountered a troll before (or fallen prey to their bait)
 

Srivijaya

Active Member
There's also the literary creation troll. Did this one myself years back when I still could be bothered. I created a female persona to troll a board full of idiots and it worked like a dream. The key to it was writing the sort of things guys want women to say (but they never do, because real women don't) without going over the top into obvious fake territory.

I made her a non-native speaker, so I could 'misunderstand' and use inappropriate language 'by mistake'. Half the dudes on the board were hot for 'her' in no time and all the women genuinely loathed 'her'. Getting the b-chy remarks was half the fun and boy did 'she' get them. Once she'd got into place I just let the occasional dodgy 'fact' slip in, which was immediately jumped on by 'her' haters and defended by 'her' fans, when 'she' back-peddled or ineptly clarified it.

It was great fun while it lasted - thinking up scandalous scenarios etc. Rather like writing a novel but eventually, when I got bored, 'she' crashed out in style. True trolling is a work of performance art, no doubt about it.
 
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