Trailblazer
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Interesting, those are exactly the same as Baha'i beliefs about God.
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Size of God's home planet
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FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
I didn't say that God has a physical body.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Interesting, those are exactly the same as Baha'i beliefs about God.
Would you please explain how God has his own throne hanging over water.
“And it is He who created the Heavens and the Earth in Six Days – and His Throne had been upon water.” – Surah Hud 11:7
How so? Just because the Earth rotates once in 24 hours does mean that a planet that rotates once in 48 hours is twice as large as the Earth. You want to claim that because "God's home planet' has a 'day' of 1000 of our years that means it is larger than the Earth by a factor you calculated. That simply doesn't follow from your premises.
And, again, I'm not even addressing the theological issues of God having a home planet or not.
Celestial mechanics doesn't work like that. And im pretty sure gravity would have something to say about it
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Given that the speed is constant then a complete rotation that takes 48 hours
is of course means that the planet is larger and yes it's twice.
40,000 km in 24 hours
X km in 48 hours
X = (40000 x 48)/ 24
X = 80,000 km
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james blunt
Well-Known Member
What the heck have you got going on in your head dude ?
Do you understand the Physics of time etc ?
We don't use rotation for time , the rotation was found to not be constant so we found a constant and use that instead.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
What about mass? What about distance from its primary, what about the mass of the primary? Should they be included in your calculation?
Exactly why do you think the speed would be constant? It isn't even constant at different latitudes *on Earth*.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
It's constant regarding the period of time for completing a whole cycle,
God informed us that according to our measurement his day is equivalent
to 1000 years of ours.
The same results was proven to be correct in my other thread.
God does exist
You did't deny your belief that God has a body, but rather you have only denied the physical part.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
The verse you cited is not a Baha'i belief. Briefly, we believe that the Heavens, which we call the spiritual world, has always existed. The spiritual world is without beginning or end but the Earth evolved over time.
It is kind of an oxymoron to say that God is the Creator, because God has always existed and God has never been without His Creation. The passage below explains what that means.
“As to thy question concerning the origin of creation. Know assuredly that God’s creation hath existed from eternity, and will continue to exist forever. Its beginning hath had no beginning, and its end knoweth no end. His name, the Creator, presupposeth a creation, even as His title, the Lord of Men, must involve the existence of a servant.
As to those sayings, attributed to the Prophets of old, such as, “In the beginning was God; there was no creature to know Him,” and “The Lord was alone; with no one to adore Him,” the meaning of these and similar sayings is clear and evident, and should at no time be misapprehended. To this same truth bear witness these words which He hath revealed: “God was alone; there was none else besides Him. He will always remain what He hath ever been.” Every discerning eye will readily perceive that the Lord is now manifest, yet there is none to recognize His glory. By this is meant that the habitation wherein the Divine Being dwelleth is far above the reach and ken of any one besides Him. Whatsoever in the contingent world can either be expressed or apprehended, can never transgress the limits which, by its inherent nature, have been imposed upon it. God, alone, transcendeth such limitations. He, verily, is from everlasting. No peer or partner has been, or can ever be, joined with Him. No name can be compared with His Name. No pen can portray His nature, neither can any tongue depict His glory. He will, for ever, remain immeasurably exalted above any one except Himself.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 150-151
As to those sayings, attributed to the Prophets of old, such as, “In the beginning was God; there was no creature to know Him,” and “The Lord was alone; with no one to adore Him,” the meaning of these and similar sayings is clear and evident, and should at no time be misapprehended. To this same truth bear witness these words which He hath revealed: “God was alone; there was none else besides Him. He will always remain what He hath ever been.” Every discerning eye will readily perceive that the Lord is now manifest, yet there is none to recognize His glory. By this is meant that the habitation wherein the Divine Being dwelleth is far above the reach and ken of any one besides Him. Whatsoever in the contingent world can either be expressed or apprehended, can never transgress the limits which, by its inherent nature, have been imposed upon it. God, alone, transcendeth such limitations. He, verily, is from everlasting. No peer or partner has been, or can ever be, joined with Him. No name can be compared with His Name. No pen can portray His nature, neither can any tongue depict His glory. He will, for ever, remain immeasurably exalted above any one except Himself.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 150-151
I am assuming that verse from the Qur'an that you cited is metaphorical, not literal, but I don't want to speak for Muslim beliefs because I am not sure what they are.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
I don't know what God is or how he looks like,
Do you know what's the nature of God?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Do you know how God looks like and what kind of nature God is?
So the time it takes for "God's planet" to rotate once is 1000 years.
Once again, that says *nothing* about its size.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Explain as of why.
I have. It is not the case that the length of the day of a planet is related to its size. For example, Jupiter is much larger than the Earth and has a shorter 'day'. Venus is about the same size as the Earth and has a 'day' that is 243 Earth days. Mercury is smaller than the Earth and had a 'day' that is 59 Earth days. Mars is much smaller than the Earth and has a 'day' that is almost the same as Earth's.
There is literally no connection between the length of the day on a planet and the size of that planet.
Let me turn it around. Why do you think the length of the day on a planet should be related to its size?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, nobody has ever SEEN God and the intrinsic nature of God is unknowable.
All we can know about God are His Attributes, which are reflected in and revealed by His Messengers.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
And they demand of thee to hasten the chastisement! God will not fail His promise; and surely a day with thy Lord is as a thousand years of your counting.(22:47)
You insist that no relation between how long it takes for a complete cycle for earth
and God's planet, 24 hours for a complete cycle for earth and 8640000 hours for
a complete cycle for God's planets and God mentioned of our counting,
the complete cycle for earth in 24 hours is about 40000 km, using the same standards of accounting for a planet with circumference of 80000 km, then the day will be 48 hours.
Very simple, I wonder why you can't get it?