Slavery

[YoursTrue]

You mean those many things that you failed demonstrate. Got it.
Inanimate objects cannot own a person as property. Inanimate objects cannot choose to own a person as property.


I like to see your answer to my question, and not these dodging responses that you're posting.


I'm still waiting for you to tell me who your master is, before I can agree with you or not.


Ah. Just as I thought, the typical and usual response given by all those who dodges questions that are being asked, due to being an irrational person with a big ego. Eventually, they will give a response that aligns with this similar excuse......"I am going to avoid answering your question because I am right, and you are wrong because I know more than you, that's why you're not understanding." Shifting the attention towards their opponent, usually accusing their opponents of doing and/or being something in particular. It's an attempt to cover their evidential ignorance and/or irrational reasonings they showed earlier.

Let's see.

"No use answering your question....." - avoid answering the question

"....when you can't comprehend the simple fact of life." - shifting the attention to their opponent, accusing their opponents of doing and/or being something in particular.


- attempt to cover their evidential ignorance and/or irrational reasonings they showed earlier.

These comments in particular.



So, going by your logic, you are a slave owned by you, all while being the master of you.

Lol that's funny. Once again, just to make the point clear and I'm sorry if it got befuddled, slave masters that are cruel is not a good thing.

 

[YoursTrue]

Like the ones from the bible.

Do you see any forms of rape and slavery in today's world?

 

[YoursTrue]

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So, going by your logic, you are a slave owned by you, all while being the master of you.

You're not? Are you going to tell me you are your own master?

 

[YoursTrue]

The porn industry is using metaphors to justify literal ownership of another human being?

If you're referring to human trafficking, of course that's a horrific crime that needs to be combatted, but nobody is arguing that it's morally acceptable, so I'm not sure your point.

A horrific crime that needs to be combatted? It's big, big money. And then there's more to it. Much more to it. Lawyers defend the right to publish these things.

 

[Father Heathen]

A horrific crime that needs to be combatted? It's big, big money. And then there's more to it. Much more to it. Lawyers defend the right to publish these things.

So you're conflating porn in general with trafficking? By that logic shoes and clothes are bad because some of it is made by child labor.

 

[thomas t]

A horrific crime that needs to be combatted? It's big, big money. And then there's more to it. Much more to it. Lawyers defend the right to publish these things.

I think it is as @Father Heathen said, as I understand him...: you are conflating porn and forced labor.

Look there are many who are porn actors by free will decision.
Take this Youtube documentary, for instance. It is made by a German public television channel and it is about those who want to become porn stars trying their best to reach this goal and they explain the who what and when. You certainly don't understand everything, I know, but the gestures and the way they speak tells everything, in my opinion.
They explain why they feel content and happy as porn actors.

If ever there are forced actors in porn, too, these are the kinds of folks they have to compete with: they know what they do and are well motivated! If I were a porn producer with no interest in morality... I would think twice before hiring a forced laborer when there are other people around who are willing and show some proper emotion.
They also explain that they continue like that even if their families are no enthusiasts of porn.

 

[SkepticThinker]

No one that I see is defending rape and for you to say otherwise is off the mark. But no matter how you call it, we're all slaves to something, even if it's the air we breathe or the fact we need to eat. I think you're thinking of a cruel type of slavery. Just to set it straight, I'm certainly not defending that.

Perhaps you should stop trying to equivocate the two then.

 

[SkepticThinker]

P.S. There is a lot of slavery in the kind you're speaking of. A horrible kind. You are not going to, and cannot set them free. There are child slaves, female and male slaves in some deplorable, horrible conditions. Only God can straighten things like that out. But if you don't believe that, I'll be wondering if you'll offer to form some effort that will set all slaves free. (It ain't gonna happen in this world...)

Human beings ended slavery in the US. No gods to be found AND despite the Bible’s condoning of it. So it seems to me that humans are the only ones who can “ straighten things like that out.”

 

[night912]

You're not? Are you going to tell me you are your own master?

No. Being a slave to the person in which you are his/master, is a contradiction. So is being the slave master of your slave who you are enslaved to.

Trying to defend irrationality with irrational reasoning, will only result in more irrationality.

 

[night912]

Lol that's funny. Once again, just to make the point clear and I'm sorry if it got befuddled, slave masters that are cruel is not a good thing.

Just to be clear, I'll say it again.

I like to see your answer to my question, and not these dodging responses that you're posting.

 

[YoursTrue]

I think it is as @Father Heathen said, as I understand him...: you are conflating porn and forced labor.

Look there are many who are porn actors by free will decision.
Take this Youtube documentary, for instance. It is made by a German public television channel and it is about those who want to become porn stars trying their best to reach this goal and they explain the who what and when. You certainly don't understand everything, I know, but the gestures and the way they speak tells everything, in my opinion.
They explain why they feel content and happy as porn actors.

If ever there are forced actors in porn, too, these are the kinds of folks they have to compete with: they know what they do and are well motivated! If I were a porn producer with no interest in morality... I would think twice before hiring a forced laborer when there are other people around who are willing and show some proper emotion.
They also explain that they continue like that even if their families are no enthusiasts of porn.

I am saying no amount of do-good actions will change this world. I am saying that if I saw someone suffering I would try to help. I am also saying that no matter how much good a person may want to do, it is limited. For instance, we know there was a show about crime and trying to solve them by publicizing them. But no matter, crime, kidnapping, extortion, corruption, rape and very bad things happen a lot. That is the reality.

 

[YoursTrue]

No. Being a slave to the person in which you are his/master, is a contradiction. So is being the slave master of your slave who you are enslaved to.

Trying to defend irrationality with irrational reasoning, will only result in more irrationality.

Let me start here with what you may call rationality. Lawyers can defend pornography. That's only on one level of terrible corruption. If I have to outline more for you, I'm sorry, that's too bad. But I hope you will think about these things in the future.

 

[night912]

Let me start here with what you may call rationality. Lawyers can defend pornography. That's only on one level of terrible corruption. If I have to outline more for you, I'm sorry, that's too bad. But I hope you will think about these things in the future.

Just to be clear, I'll say it again.

Trying to defend irrationality with irrational reasoning, will only result in more irrationality.

 

[thomas t]

Let me start here with what you may call rationality. Lawyers can defend pornography.

yes they can.

This has to do with equal rights as opposed to "terrible corruption", as you put it.

Professing Christians shouldn't be opposed to equal rights for sex workers, I think. Very much in the way they shouldn't be opposed to equal rights for LGBT+, which usually is the No.1 target of some devout Christians.

But here I should add that promoting discrimination against sexual minorities or sex workers... is not just a Jehova Witnesses thing. This type of behavior is wide spread among conservatives in Christiandom, sadly.

 

[YoursTrue]

yes they can.

This has to do with equal rights as opposed to "terrible corruption", as you put it.

Professing Christians shouldn't be opposed to equal rights for sex workers, I think. Very much in the way they shouldn't be opposed to equal rights for LGBT+, which usually is the No.1 target of some devout Christians.

But here I should add that promoting discrimination against sexual minorities or sex workers... is not just a Jehova Witnesses thing. This type of behavior is wide spread among conservatives in Christiandom, sadly.

I've heard arguments that it isn't so bad, plus some of the people involved are nice, etc. Goes a little deeper than that. Anyway, if a person doesn't get it, they don't get it. I hope one day you will understand the deep, underlying and irreformable corruption under certain ways of looking at things.

 

[YoursTrue]

Just to be clear, I'll say it again.

Trying to defend irrationality with irrational reasoning, will only result in more irrationality.

Welcome to most of the world.