So christains weren't always against homosexuality

[MoonWater]

At least according to this article they weren't: When Marriage Between Gays Was a Rite

I found this linked to in another thread that was discussing something else so I thought I would bring the article into it's own thread for discussion and debate.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I know that the Christian view of homosexuality hasn't always been clearcut, I agree with you. Even today it's not entirely clearcut. There was some gay saints I believe, unless I'm much mistaken, of course some of them probably remained celibate. Believe it or not, even all evangelicals/fundamentalists are not against homosexuality. I used to think that, until I met a Apostolic Pentacostal who accepts gay people.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Wow, I'll have to look into this.

Boswell also wrote The Kindness of Strangers: Child Abandonment in Western Europe from Late Antiquity to the Renaissance - which is an outstanding study - I read it last year.

At first glance, it seems to me that the argument is quite weak, but it's worth further investigation.

 

[Thesavorofpan]

I know that the Christian view of homosexuality hasn't always been clearcut, I agree with you. Even today it's not entirely clearcut. There was some gay saints I believe, unless I'm much mistaken, of course some of them probably remained celibate. Believe it or not, even all evangelicals/fundamentalists are not against homosexuality. I used to think that, until I met a Apostolic Pentacostal who accepts gay people.

Yeah...their not in the organization anymore....But I do believe they formed there own something called the rock.

 

[Thesavorofpan]

At least according to this article they weren't: When Marriage Between Gays Was a Rite

I found this linked to in another thread that was discussing something else so I thought I would bring the article into it's own thread for discussion and debate.

Well that was quite informal, but it just shows how much heresy was in the Catholic Church when it had all the power, but that's just my view point take it how you want it.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Yeah...their not in the organization anymore....But I do believe they formed there own something called the rock.

Oh she's not a member of the Rock. She attends your usual average Pentecostal church. I consider her a friend, and we still talk sometimes. She just thinks you can't choose to be gay, and she has a son who's gay.

 

[Thesavorofpan]

Oh she's not a member of the Rock. She attends your usual average Pentecostal church. I consider her a friend, and we still talk sometimes. She just thinks you can't choose to be gay, and she has a son who's gay.

I wouldn't suggest expressing that view. Some apostolic can be so judgmental at times to the point killing one's salvation.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Oh believe me Thesavor, I know they can. My dad became an Apostolic. He is very judgmental. We go around about things sometimes. He used to be Anglican, and he raised me Anglican, and I never became Pentecostal, so he knows how I feel. I was always a very liberal Christian, and even were I still Christian, I'd still be Episcopalian.

 

[kejos]

At least according to this article they weren't: When Marriage Between Gays Was a Rite

The people who really need to be convinced that homosexuality is ok are the born again- and they are never going to be convinced that 'Saint Catherine's Monastery' has anything to do with Christ.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Kejos Saint Catherine's Monastary has just as much to do with Christ as you. You can't make the call on who's a Christian or not. Stop trying to.

 

[Thesavorofpan]

Oh believe me Thesavor, I know they can. My dad became an Apostolic. He is very judgmental. We go around about things sometimes. He used to be Anglican, and he raised me Anglican, and I never became Pentecostal, so he knows how I feel. I was always a very liberal Christian, and even were I still Christian, I'd still be Episcopalian.

I wonder If I know him. Though judgmental or not I still think it has sound doctrine.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Well except that the Bible says to judge not unless you also be judged, and that salvation is by faith and observing the commandments of love God and your neighbor. Homosexuals can do these two things, and frankly, their salvation is not up for judgment by anyone except God.

 

[kejos]

Kejos Saint Catherine's Monastary has just as much to do with Christ as you.

Possibly, though maybe my wife would not quite see eye to eye with you. But the born again are never going to say that 'Saint Catherine's Monastery' corresponds to anything in reality. The only way to even think of convincing the born again about this is to search the Bible. As nobody in 2000 years has discovered grounds in that, the chance seems very remote.

Though of course the born again, considering themselves the pillar of truth, would not necessarily agree that homosexuality is ok even if the Bible could be said to say so. There was societal taboo about homosexuality long before there was Christianity.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Kejos and I suppose societal taboo= God prohibits it in your head?

 

[kejos]

Kejos and I suppose societal taboo= God prohibits it in your head?

Whose head?

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Whose head?

Yours- your mind

 

[kejos]

Yours- your mind

Just how old do you think I am?

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Just how old do you think I am?

Age is just a number