so I have a question/theory?

[Kalidas]

So been reading a bit and doing a lot thinking about god an the universe. Now if the Brahmin is everything and all things are the Brahmin does this mean that the entire universe is the Brahmin? That all of the universe is merely one giant oragnism like thing that will one day be gone all that will be left is the Brahmin and ten te universe will be created again? It is said that the only thing that can't be created or destroyed is energy, that sounds like the Maya to me. Or am I completely off base? I know this is a very diest view but Hinduism sounds very diest to me.

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

So been reading a bit and doing a lot thinking about god an the universe. Now if the Brahmin is everything and all things are the Brahmin does this mean that the entire universe is the Brahmin? That all of the universe is merely one giant oragnism like thing that will one day be gone all that will be left is the Brahmin and ten te universe will be created again? It is said that the only thing that can't be created or destroyed is energy, that sounds like the Maya to me. Or am I completely off base? I know this is a very diest view but Hinduism sounds very diest to me.

I think your coming from more of a Advaita view point, where BRAHMAN (not brahmin by the way) is the material cause of this Universe.

I have a vary different view, where the material cause is Prakriti, which undergoes changes, Brahman never changes in my view.

As for Maya, im not the one to comment on the concept of Maya as illusion, but if you call it energy then again i would consider it a part of Prakriti, not Brahman, and I would agree that Prakriti (Maya) is eternal.

But sound to me you are getting there.

May Ishwar guide you on the right path.

OM TATH SATH

 

[Maya3]

Yes from an Advaita point of view everything is Brahman if you want to call it that.
If you do it IS Brahman, not Brahmin.

You often say Tat Tvam Asi, You Are That.

Maya

 

[Shântoham]

Namaskāram

We can say that Brahman is all there is – but all that there is, is not Brahman. The same way we say that the actor is the role, but the role its not the actor.

Pranāms

 

[Kalidas]

First sorry for the misspelling I'm on my phone and it kept correcting Brahman. So the answer veries greatly from book to book scripture to scripture. I liked the brahman is everything but not everything is Brahman, the sum of the parts don't equal the whole. Kinda like a body I am my kidneys heart brain lungs etc but they are not me. See this idea came to me a while back while contemplating the existance of god. I thought maybe were looking at god all wrong. Most people view god as completely seperate from the universe and all thingsin it. So I began viewing it the other way. What if the universe is god. To add a physical spin on it for sake of ease of understanding (we are but mortal creatures) life would be the heart human (and alien maybe) intellegence the thoughts and brain so on and so forth. My main issue is is this even god? Or am I just taking the universe and stamping the name god o'er it and calling it mine. Its funny I never thought about this stuff when I was a Christian.

 

[Valjean]

Yes. Ultimately Brahmin is everything and everything is Brahmin, moreover, there are no "things." Nor is there a "one day."
There is no time. There is no change. There is only an eternal HERE/NOW.

As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be. World without end. Amen.

 

[Onkara]

So been reading a bit and doing a lot thinking about god an the universe. Now if the Brahmin is everything and all things are the Brahmin does this mean that the entire universe is the Brahmin? That all of the universe is merely one giant oragnism like thing that will one day be gone all that will be left is the Brahmin and ten te universe will be created again? It is said that the only thing that can't be created or destroyed is energy, that sounds like the Maya to me. Or am I completely off base? I know this is a very diest view but Hinduism sounds very diest to me.

Hello
There are different theories, schools and text, so the answer regarding Maya and the cycles of creation, maintenance and dissolution depend on the school/scripture. Prakrti undergoes change and Maya is of Prakrti.

 

[Maya3]

First sorry for the misspelling I'm on my phone and it kept correcting Brahman. So the answer veries greatly from book to book scripture to scripture. I liked the brahman is everything but not everything is Brahman, the sum of the parts don't equal the whole. Kinda like a body I am my kidneys heart brain lungs etc but they are not me. See this idea came to me a while back while contemplating the existance of god. I thought maybe were looking at god all wrong. Most people view god as completely seperate from the universe and all thingsin it. So I began viewing it the other way. What if the universe is god. To add a physical spin on it for sake of ease of understanding (we are but mortal creatures) life would be the heart human (and alien maybe) intellegence the thoughts and brain so on and so forth. My main issue is is this even god? Or am I just taking the universe and stamping the name god o'er it and calling it mine. Its funny I never thought about this stuff when I was a Christian.

I had a similar experience. I was never Christian, but I grew up in a secular home in a secular "Christian" country so when I thought of God I thought of the Abrahamic concept, it never made sense to me so I never believed it.
But then I started thinking that everything is consciousnesses and when we pray we pray to ourselves...after that thought (years and years ago now) it just clicked. And then it grew from there

Maya

 

[Kalidas]

Well I think I may have used the wrong word for explaining energy. So to me energy would be the "God" substance. It is the only thing all things in the universe have in common while simultaneously keeping everything together. It would also explain the rebirth concept in a scientific way ( sorry I like science), energy likes to move from one form to another energy does not like to stays till.Got it to me energy would be closer to the concept of Atman, never changing never dying and constantly moving from form to form. Sorry for the misuse of the term Maya

Well one day the universe will be nothing and all that will be left is energy and then there will be another recreation. This too is founded in science (though this theory has come under attack). So yes this would make my God both changing and not, everything and yet a single substance, A large multitude of things and then a singular thing, and yet never dying.

Well unless I am mistaken what I am getting from all of you is I am neither wrong nor right (or I am right in my sense, and honestly I think everyone else is right too God is to powerful to be limited to one idea). I also believe that the multitude of ideas allows for many people to find inner peace. So if it makes me happy and I can find God through it then it can't be bad. Am I over complicating and over thinking things? Yes and I know I am and I do that to everything, I need to meditate more my mind moves around and is so active a few moments a day of silence would do me good.

 

[Vinayaka]

I am like you, in preferring several ideas as correct. I see nothing wrong in that. In my version of Hinduism , the underlying substratum flowing through all form is called sat-chit-ananda. but that's not the only way I view God. So your ideas fit in pretty well here.

 

[Onkara]

Hi Lemaster
I think you are asking good helpful questions, if I may say so. One thing that all schools of Hinduism share is that of non-dualism (or pan(en)theism). So it is difficult/impossible to separate something from God, everything is God, however there is the measurable and the immeasurable. There is the impression that things can be separated and measured as objects in themselves, closer examination will show that they are all in fact dependent on one another and nothing is separable form the whole (God).

The Atman is not generally referred to as energy in scripture, it isn't life' energy that you and I may feel on waking. The Atman isn't the Pranamaya kosha. It cannot be extinguished or ignited in anyway. However an analogy of the Atman is that of light which illumines everything. Light reflects on objects, such as material objects and hence the Atman 'knows' them.

 

[Kalidas]

I think your viewing a different t form of energy then I am. The energy you speak of which you feel when you wake up or eat is caused by chemical reactions in your cells. The energy I speak of is that which pervades the universe. It is the cosmic force that was here before matter and will still be here after matter is gone. It is the forecast that started the birth of our universe and is the force that keeps it going and due to its active nature is the reason entropy occurs and why all matter one day will be gone. Just sounds familiar to me.

 

[Onkara]

I think your viewing a different t form of energy then I am. The energy you speak of which you feel when you wake up or eat is caused by chemical reactions in your cells. The energy I speak of is that which pervades the universe. It is the cosmic force that was here before matter and will still be here after matter is gone. It is the forecast that started the birth of our universe and is the force that keeps it going and due to its active nature is the reason entropy occurs and why all matter one day will be gone. Just sounds familiar to me.

Yes you are correct, the energy you refer to here, I would call Spanda.