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So much for Bidens fist bump.

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Definately superior in creating greenhouse gases.

Time for a change. We can do it.
Bs. Fossil fuels will not create a runaway green house effect even if every single drop of fuel reserves were to be burned all at once.

The vilification of fossil fuel by alarmists is nothing but propaganda to institute paranoia and fear as a means to an end.

All that said, create a superior green technology and the problem of fossil energy will go away on its own guaranteed.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
OPEC and Russia agree to slash oil output by 2M barrels a day I'm sure he's happy though. He and his happy puppeteers can pitch the drive for overpriced garbage EVs to force upon people.

Thanks for all that you, the Republicans, and other Republican voters do help solve this problem.

Bs. Fossil fuels will not create a runaway green house effect even if every single drop of fuel reserves were to be burned all at once. The vilification of fossil fuel by alarmists is nothing but propaganda to institute paranoia and fear as a means to an end.

And thank you for that. Your understanding of the science and the nature of its dissemination are a gift to all. What would these "alarmist" scientists know about these matters anyway? Thanks for bringing the truth to us.

Biden and troupe may not exactly control pricing but he and people like him can certainly influence the market via policy and mandate.

How many threads have you started calling Biden and Democrats tyrants for mandates? Thanks for your consistency and firm commitment to principle depending on which party is doing it.

All that said, create a superior green technology and the problem of fossil energy will go away on its own guaranteed.

It's already in the works, but getting it past the Republicans will be a feat. They object to anything green. They convulse upon hearing the phrase New Green Deal.

Maybe it’s because I’m not American. But I continue to be baffled by your politics in general And indeed the need to demonise every tiny move by Biden.

Please do not include liberal Americans in that. They (we) are just as baffled by the American right as you are.

Could it be because the Republican party has no real politics to offer, so they can only trow dirt at others to gain popularity?

They have no legitimate platform that they can be honest about. What they want is to transfer the entire tax burden to the middle class while decimating its economic and social opportunities. They want to roll back programs that benefit ordinary people and cripple all regulatory agencies protecting them from despoiling the environment. They want to control election outcomes to retain power indefinitely and to institute theocracy. How much of that can you put in words?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
So, Biden supposedly encouraged OPEC and Russia to cut oil production? :rolleyes: Gee, and I thought Looney Tunes was just fiction.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So, Biden supposedly encouraged OPEC and Russia to cut oil production? :rolleyes: Gee, and I thought Looney Tunes was just fiction.
Yea. Biden just visited the Saudis for the fist bump.

Mission accomplished.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Maybe it’s because I’m not American. But I continue to be baffled by your politics in general
I live here and I'm baffled by it. True story, Americans are traditionally so stupid when it comes to politics some felt when Thomas Jefferson ran for President that he was too well read, wrote too well, reads too much and too well, thinks too much and is too philosophical, and too much a Francophile to be president, and these abject morons actually claimed he started the French Revolution.
And the tradition of idiocy and self inflicted and sustained stupidity has not abated.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Bs. Fossil fuels will not create a runaway green house effect even if every single drop of fuel reserves were to be burned all at once.

The vilification of fossil fuel by alarmists is nothing but propaganda to institute paranoia and fear as a means to an end.

All that said, create a superior green technology and the problem of fossil energy will go away on its own guaranteed.
There is so much wrong with that I don't even know where to begin.
But I am curious, all the carbon emissions and other pollutants from burning fossil fuels, what would happen with these that they'll go away on their own and how long will this take?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
There is so much wrong with that I don't even know where to begin.
But I am curious, all the carbon emissions and other pollutants from burning fossil fuels, what would happen with these that they'll go away on their own and how long will this take?
You can begin here.


'Runaway greenhouse' easier to trigger on Earth than thought, study says

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We could go into the runaway greenhouse today if we could get the planet hot enough to get enough water vapor into the atmosphere," Colin Goldblatt, a professor of Earth system evolution at the University of Victoria in British Columbia, Canada, and lead author of the study, told NBC News.



The reality, though, he said, is that burning all the planet's fossil fuels such as oil and coal is "very unlikely" to trigger the uncontrollable warming.

 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You can begin here.


'Runaway greenhouse' easier to trigger on Earth than thought, study says

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We could go into the runaway greenhouse today if we could get the planet hot enough to get enough water vapor into the atmosphere," Colin Goldblatt, a professor of Earth system evolution at the University of Victoria in British Columbia, Canada, and lead author of the study, told NBC News.



The reality, though, he said, is that burning all the planet's fossil fuels such as oil and coal is "very unlikely" to trigger the uncontrollable warming.
Do you know what a runaway greenhouse effect looks like? It is an absolute end game scenario where the Earth turns into a giant sauna and pressure cooker. It is very extreme, and not realistic to base an argument on something that is the end stage of all Life on Earth (like whem the suns radiation becomes too intense to be sufficiently deflected) and is itself way before harm to life begins.
Amd I don't need bigger text or colored. Regular works just fine.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
That's really the only issues with them here. Other than that I'm excited because they go zoom, the possibilities for modding should eventually be greater, and even the most fuel efficient internal combustion engines cannot come anywhere close to competing with the energy efficiency of an electric car.

There are also about a dozen hydrogen cars trundling around over here, which is both cool and weird.
(There is literally one refueling facility in the whole country right now, with a second planned)

I'm assuming the people driving them are Toyota employees who work at the refueling station or something. Still...it is interesting to me.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Do you know what a runaway greenhouse effect looks like? It is an absolute end game scenario where the Earth turns into a giant sauna and pressure cooker. It is very extreme, and not realistic to base an argument on something that is the end stage of all Life on Earth (like whem the suns radiation becomes too intense to be sufficiently deflected) and is itself way before harm to life begins.
Amd I don't need bigger text or colored. Regular works just fine.

Well I'm sure your more informed, privy, and more educated than a University Professor like Colin Goldblatt on the matter.

My apologies.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Well I'm sure your more informed, privy, and more educated than a University Professor like Colin Goldblatt on the matter.

My apologies.
Where did I disagree or are you not even trying? I pointed out you began with an extreme event that would kill all life on Earth. You need to come down to what we are dealing with today, not what will be in a few billion years from now when the sun starts cooking the Earth.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Where did I disagree or are you not even trying? I pointed out you began with an extreme event that would kill all life on Earth. You need to come down to what we are dealing with today, not what will be in a few billion years from now when the sun starts cooking the Earth.
Yes but fossil fuel isn't the main villain here on the issue of climate change.

The issue is bringing down fuel prices and Biden has the means to reactivate the Keystone pipe line and lift the red tape restricting our own means to tap the vast reserves here in North America alone.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yes but fossil fuel isn't the main villain here on the issue of climate change.
Climate Change isn't the same thing as a Runaway Greenhouse effect. Obviously it's not because the global average temperature hasn't spiked and we aren't measuring carbon in the the thousands ppm² in the air.
Again, come back to what we have and what we are working with an what we see and not the literal beginning of the Apocalypse in a few billion years.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The issue is bringing down fuel prices and Biden has the means to reactivate the Keystone pipe line and lift the red tape restricting our own means to tap the vast reserves here in North America alone.
That wouldn't help. This is a global issue. Why are you having such a hard time with this?
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Putin drove up the prices didn’t he? By doing the whole invasion thing and screwing with international trade. What does that have to do to with Sleepy Joe or Dark Brandon or whatever you yanks are calling him these days.
I know the US thinks itself as the world police, but international trade can happen without your interference you know? Even happen against what you guys demand, because you’re not the centre of the universe believe it or not.
(I’m being somewhat facetious. Just saying. Biden isn’t president of the world you know?)
Bleeding Yanks!!
Your America envy is showing.
 
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