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So, Trump was innocent all the time!

SA Huguenot

Well-Known Member
First of all, I'm not your "pal".

Secondly, all the above is is an attempt at "deflection" as I was referring to what Trump has said and done, and you failed to acknowledge or deny that. We can indeed talk about Biden later, but at least be honest now and not deflect, OK?

If you have to ask, they you simply have not done any of the studying.

Wow, what an excuse that is! So convenient of you to dismiss what he's said and done over the years. And, btw, Sunday school teachers ain't perfect either-- nor am I. But I do expect any politician to act morally and out of compassion for others, and Trump failed miserable at both. For you as a "Christian" to dismiss this as you've done is simply appalling.

Again, let's deal with Trump and then we can deal with Biden later, so please stop deflecting.

As far as racism is concerned, here: Racial views of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

And as far as honesty is concerned, here: Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

So, you're heavy into "McCarthyism" and spouting "Red Scare" tactics-- figures.

BTW, if you actually studied Christian theology objectively, Jesus wasn't a "conservative" by any stretch of the imagination, but I betcha your pastor tells you he was. Again, we can elaborate on that later.

I don't consider depravity to be funny, including forms of dishonesty. And neither did Jesus, btw. Matter of fact, Jesus heavily condemned the "hypocrites" who "talked-the-talk" but didn't "walk-the-walk" [maybe reread Matthew 25 as it appears that you didn't get Jesus' memo on this].
Hey Pal!
If I read your post I find the best example of real bias and Trump derangement syndrome.
You sent me to wiki. and some record of Trump in 1973!
Are you serious?
Now, you also dont like me to compare Biden with Trump, but do you even know that Biden was praising the leader of the KKK?
He was friends with white supremacists, gave them funding etc?

Furthermore, there was real concern about Obama's birth place, and everyone had the right to question whether or not a future presidential candidate are a born US citizen. It is in the US constitution. Therefore to brandish Trump because he had the courrage to ask, is really evedence of character hatred from your part.
Now, Trump NEVER SAID ALL THE ILLEGAL IMMEGRANTS WERE CRIMINALS! THIS IS MEDIA FAKE NEWS AT BEST.
hE WAS ANYHOW CORRECT IN HIS ANALYSIS THAT THERE ARE A MAJORITY OF CRIMINALS, DRUG DEALERS ETC THAT COMES INTO THE usa ILLEGALLY!
iF YOU DENY THIS, UOU ARE IGNORANT TO THE FACT OF WHAT YOUR OWN IMMEGRATION LEARERS SAYS.

Furthermore, The story of Trump saying that so called far right supremacicts are good, is also a lie.
He said there were good in both the far left and far right side.
He also within 2 following sentences condemned any form of white supremacy.

Why do you keep on saying Trump is a racist, and shut up about Biden, when Trump clearly are not, and Biden thinks Black people are stupis and sub human?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Hey Pal!
If I read your post I find the best example of real bias and Trump derangement syndrome.
You sent me to wiki. and some record of Trump in 1973!
Are you serious?
Now, you also dont like me to compare Biden with Trump, but do you even know that Biden was praising the leader of the KKK?
He was friends with white supremacists, gave them funding etc?

Furthermore, there was real concern about Obama's birth place, and everyone had the right to question whether or not a future presidential candidate are a born US citizen. It is in the US constitution. Therefore to brandish Trump because he had the courrage to ask, is really evedence of character hatred from your part.
Now, Trump NEVER SAID ALL THE ILLEGAL IMMEGRANTS WERE CRIMINALS! THIS IS MEDIA FAKE NEWS AT BEST.
hE WAS ANYHOW CORRECT IN HIS ANALYSIS THAT THERE ARE A MAJORITY OF CRIMINALS, DRUG DEALERS ETC THAT COMES INTO THE usa ILLEGALLY!
iF YOU DENY THIS, UOU ARE IGNORANT TO THE FACT OF WHAT YOUR OWN IMMEGRATION LEARERS SAYS.

Furthermore, The story of Trump saying that so called far right supremacicts are good, is also a lie.
He said there were good in both the far left and far right side.
He also within 2 following sentences condemned any form of white supremacy.

Why do you keep on saying Trump is a racist, and shut up about Biden, when Trump clearly are not, and Biden thinks Black people are stupis and sub human?
You simply are really quite ignorant on this subject, but what is even worse is the fact that you continue to support and defend a president who is very dishonest and who tried to overthrow our democracy, especially with his support of the insurrectionists on January 6th, his attempt to stop vote counting in Arizona, trying to have the secretary of state in Georgia "find" votes, and also trying to get Congress to not certify the election. And there's a lot more than just these. btw.

Trump does not reflect even the most basic Judeo-Christian values, so what you have shown us here is that you basically converted to "Trumpism", thus letting secular right-wing politics become what really is driving you.

I've seen enough.
 

Jeremiah Ames

Well-Known Member
Hey Pal!
If I read your post I find the best example of real bias and Trump derangement syndrome.
You sent me to wiki. and some record of Trump in 1973!
Are you serious?
Now, you also dont like me to compare Biden with Trump, but do you even know that Biden was praising the leader of the KKK?
He was friends with white supremacists, gave them funding etc?

Furthermore, there was real concern about Obama's birth place, and everyone had the right to question whether or not a future presidential candidate are a born US citizen. It is in the US constitution. Therefore to brandish Trump because he had the courrage to ask, is really evedence of character hatred from your part.
Now, Trump NEVER SAID ALL THE ILLEGAL IMMEGRANTS WERE CRIMINALS! THIS IS MEDIA FAKE NEWS AT BEST.
hE WAS ANYHOW CORRECT IN HIS ANALYSIS THAT THERE ARE A MAJORITY OF CRIMINALS, DRUG DEALERS ETC THAT COMES INTO THE usa ILLEGALLY!
iF YOU DENY THIS, UOU ARE IGNORANT TO THE FACT OF WHAT YOUR OWN IMMEGRATION LEARERS SAYS.

Furthermore, The story of Trump saying that so called far right supremacicts are good, is also a lie.
He said there were good in both the far left and far right side.
He also within 2 following sentences condemned any form of white supremacy.

Why do you keep on saying Trump is a racist, and shut up about Biden, when Trump clearly are not, and Biden thinks Black people are stupis and sub human?



it is absolutely impossible to see “truth” , until one casts out their evils and falsities

as long as someone considers everything they do as ‘good’ and everything they think as ‘true’, then they will live in darkness

please think about this
 

Friend of Mara

Active Member
You had a lot of answers to what I saw and summarised over a few minutes on what Trump acchieved over 4 years with a dead duck Democratic carcass around his neck trying to drown him in false accusations and concocted criminal actions.
But I thought I would just like to ask you if you rely believe the above statement you made?

Now, If you believe the illegal aliens at the border are "vast majority" and "Refugees", I rest my case on your word salads you use instantly, that was a nice piece of fake media propaganda stuck in your unconscience.

Lets see:
1. Vast majority Refugees is a false claim.
A refugee can go to any American embassy, or to any Border crossing, and can claim refugee status. These illegal aliens, or as you call them "Refugees", deliberately stay clear of the legal border posts, and cross the US border at places where they can not report to the US to gain Refugee status. They are therefore nothing more than criminal border crossers, and should be treated as such with the civilised methods for which the US is known. It will mean they get arrested, and their cases be heard and judgement be made on if they are realy refugees or not. If they are not catagortised as Refugees, but illegal immagrants, they must be refused entry in the USA, and sent back to the Mexican border.
2. If someone flees from their socialist empoverished countries as a refugee, they will obviously not be Mexicans. previously it was Mexicans who crossed the border for employment and money. There is no persecution on the Mexican citizens by the Mexican government. The illegal immigrants are now from Guatemala, Honduras, Venezuella, and El Salvador, countries in Central America with high rates of poverty and violence. The reson for the downfall of their countries are because of leftist socialist and corrupt governments. Just the same as what the far left socilaist Democratic party wants to happen to the USA.

Now, taqke note...
If these people were refugees, they would have arrived at the Mexican border, and could then apply for refugee status, whereupon the UN will intervene!

But this is not the case... They cross sometimes 5 countries, so they can become ILLEGAL ALIENS IN THE USA!
These people might be hard working, morally perfect people, BUT THEY ARE ILLEGAL, AND THEREFORE IN INTERNATIONAL LAW, CRIMINAL ENTRIES INTO SOVEREIGN SOILL!
to whitewash their legal status in the USA with false descriptions such as calling them Refugees, is actually a crime of conspiracy to assist an offender of US Federal law!

You ignore the fact that if anyone crosses any country in the World's border without permission of that country, you will be locked up with no further addoo.
In Iraac, Pakistan, North Corea, and China, you will be shoot!
In other countries you will be locked up for up to 10 years, others will deport you, and demand that your country prosecute you!

Only in the USA does pink bellied liberal socialists think it is somehow an infringement of human rights to prevent illegal immigration.
That is sooooo foolish.

And lastly...
Even your word salad "vast majority refugees", is evidence that you know the facts show that not "all the refugees" are not criminals and terrorists!
In actual fact to admit that not all the refugees are non criminal or non terrorists, actualyy proves that there are Criminals and terrorists entering the USA illegally from Mexico.

Why are you so resistant to allow the USA to have these people prevented to cross the border illegally?
Why do you want to paint a picture that it is fine to cross the border at places where the USA will not know you did it?

A very wise man, whom I admire as perhaps the most intellectual of all times said:

Only a thief climbs through a window to enter a house. The owner and those he knows enters by the door!
You realize there have been a litany of murders at the US boarders by the very people they were attempting to flee from? Mexico is not a safe haven and the courts have recognized this.

How many terrorists enter the US from Mexico this year? How many people have died on us soil from terrorists from Mexico?

I don't think I have ever stated that we shouldn't control immigration. Though I was simply saying that Trump's actions were ineffective at best and cruel at worst.

Edit:

What do you think is the prime difference between the Mexican boarder and the Canadian boarder? Do you think we need to build a wall on the north? Or should we guard our boarder with Mexico like we do in Canada?
 

Friend of Mara

Active Member
I like this source as a summary on the economic successes of Trump much more than your source.
Did Donald Trump Bring Back American Jobs?
This is a well ballanced report, which critisizes and praises the failures and takes into consideration that the Covid pandemic prohibiterd him to continue on a few instances.
Read the article and many of the added notes really painted a picture of a lackluster presidency. What in it made you think it supported your argument?
Furthermore, Trump did not have the majority in congress, and the spitefull Dems continiously just prevented him to do his job.
If you remember how they continiously harrassed and victimeised Trump with the most corrupt accusations, impeachments and other deceitfull knifing acts, you will have to agree that Trump was 100 times more ennergetig for the USA, than any president ever.
Neither did Obama for example. Do you think Obama's presidency would have been better if the republicans didn't roadblock him at every turn?
 

SA Huguenot

Well-Known Member
"find" votes, and also trying to get Congress to not certify the election
:):rolleyes: Which was also not true Pal!
And it is a clear fact today that the Democrat swamp did cheat in the electionsd, and they are still fighting tooth and nail to not show ID's when voting, and it is a fact that the companies and dems refused to have the counting machines audited, and more.
What worries me Pal, is that you are definately a huge fan of CNN and of Rachael Maddow!
Pal, it seems as if you just want all these false accusations of Trump to be true, no matter if it was proven to be wrong.
I betcha you were watching CNN every minute when "Bombshells of power puff" was revealed on CNN every eveniong, sitting on the edge of the seat wishing this will be the one.
I cant change your mind, if you want to believe what the Leftist fake news tells you, thats up to you to stay in that cult and to believe Trump is the antichrist, and Biden the saviour of the universe.
They call is Denial!
Enjoy Pal!
 

Friend of Mara

Active Member
:):rolleyes: Which was also not true Pal!
And it is a clear fact today that the Democrat swamp did cheat in the electionsd, and they are still fighting tooth and nail to not show ID's when voting, and it is a fact that the companies and dems refused to have the counting machines audited, and more.
What worries me Pal, is that you are definately a huge fan of CNN and of Rachael Maddow!
Pal, it seems as if you just want all these false accusations of Trump to be true, no matter if it was proven to be wrong.
I betcha you were watching CNN every minute when "Bombshells of power puff" was revealed on CNN every eveniong, sitting on the edge of the seat wishing this will be the one.
I cant change your mind, if you want to believe what the Leftist fake news tells you, thats up to you to stay in that cult and to believe Trump is the antichrist, and Biden the saviour of the universe.
They call is Denial!
Enjoy Pal!
Not defending democrats but lets not pretend the republicans are any better. If the mail in ballots that were thrown out of Texas had been counted it would have shifted blue. And as far as I know not a single one of them were thrown out because of fears of voter fraud but from various other technical issues usually signature related issues. And any news that the democrats pulled out a huge scandal to win also is baseless. They were either defeated or outright dismissed in the courts (many of which were Trump appointed Judges).

So as much as I can't fathom why it seems by all accounts the American people chose Biden as their next president.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Which was also not true Pal!
Um, Trump called both secretary of states, who are Republicans, and they recorded it! I have heard them more than once each, so you're clearly oblivious to reality.

And btw, I get my news 6 days a week from no less than 10 or more sources, including Fox btw, thus I never use just one source nor just with slants in just one direction, left or right. My guess is that you are using "projection" as it's rather obvious that you know next to nothing about Trump's atrocities that are well documented, as I had linked you to before from a non-partisan source.

And now what do we see with Trump? He's basically admitted he's has been dodging taxes, and his excuse is that everyone else in business is doing that as well. IOW, he's not even denying he's guilty of tax fraud!

So, if you get stopped by the police for speeding, maybe use Trump's excuse and tell the officer that you shouldn't get a ticket because so many others never got caught. Let me know how that turns out for you, OK?
 
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