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So what if it’s unorthodox

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StashLazarus

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Even after I stopped going to church I would often wonder about theology and the Bible. It didn’t make sense to me that God would punish Jesus for our sins. That would not be justice and if God does not believe in justice then what other virtues does God not believe in?

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The first epiphany was when I realized that salvation is about casting away sin, not transferring responsibility for sin. The sacrificed animals in the Torah did not take responsibility for the sins of the person, but they were “sacrificed” or given up just as Jesus said He would give up His body. Jesus overcame the Law, returned to God, but in the end He gives up His body and this makes it possible for our bodies to be given up so that what remains of us is worthy of eternal life, and we are given a new body. This method of redemption does not require us to be a Christian since this redemption can still be described as being “through” Christ.

Several years later I decided to write a book about this new way of looking at the Bible and this meant reading the Bible with this different theory in mind. As I studied the Bible it amazed me to notice that separation is actually a very dominant theme in the Bible often associated with redemption. God even described the act of creating the universe as separating things as in separating light from darkness.

As I looked at the Bible with the idea that Jesus discards His flesh in the end, the evidence led me to the realization that Jesus came from oneness with God and upon discarding His flesh He will return to oneness with God. I came to realize that the “trinity” is wrong, and there is only one God. Jesus is a part of God that is separated from God only on the timeline while God transcends time.

All of this led to another revelation. It is said that Jesus destroys the devil, but Christians tend to avoid this assertion other than to say that Jesus is the executioner, but it seems odd that Jesus would play such a role. There are clues in the Bible that the devil unloaded his hatred on Christ when Jesus was on the cross. As Jesus returns to oneness with God, God is a witness against Satan, and this will certainly destroy Satan.

This explains why this information had to be kept secret, and Christians were led astray with false doctrines like the trinity and substitution atonement. If Jesus came from oneness with God and will return to oneness with God then Satan is in big trouble. The truth will enrage Satan and this will cause Armageddon as Satan is cast out.

I did finish my book. When it is distributed sufficiently for the devil to take it seriously, then the end will come.

So what if it’s unorthodox; the solution to a riddle makes all the clues fit together without changing any of the clues, and that is what this does for the Bible.












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Super Universe

Super Universe

Defender of God
StashLazarus said:
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Even after I stopped going to church I would often wonder about theology and the Bible. It didn’t make sense to me that God would punish Jesus for our sins. That would not be justice and if God does not believe in justice then what other virtues does God not believe in?

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The first epiphany was when I realized that salvation is about casting away sin, not transferring responsibility for sin. The sacrificed animals in the Torah did not take responsibility for the sins of the person, but they were “sacrificed” or given up just as Jesus said He would give up His body. Jesus overcame the Law, returned to God, but in the end He gives up His body and this makes it possible for our bodies to be given up so that what remains of us is worthy of eternal life, and we are given a new body. This method of redemption does not require us to be a Christian since this redemption can still be described as being “through” Christ.

Several years later I decided to write a book about this new way of looking at the Bible and this meant reading the Bible with this different theory in mind. As I studied the Bible it amazed me to notice that separation is actually a very dominant theme in the Bible often associated with redemption. God even described the act of creating the universe as separating things as in separating light from darkness.

As I looked at the Bible with the idea that Jesus discards His flesh in the end, the evidence led me to the realization that Jesus came from oneness with God and upon discarding His flesh He will return to oneness with God. I came to realize that the “trinity” is wrong, and there is only one God. Jesus is a part of God that is separated from God only on the timeline while God transcends time.

All of this led to another revelation. It is said that Jesus destroys the devil, but Christians tend to avoid this assertion other than to say that Jesus is the executioner, but it seems odd that Jesus would play such a role. There are clues in the Bible that the devil unloaded his hatred on Christ when Jesus was on the cross. As Jesus returns to oneness with God, God is a witness against Satan, and this will certainly destroy Satan.

This explains why this information had to be kept secret, and Christians were led astray with false doctrines like the trinity and substitution atonement. If Jesus came from oneness with God and will return to oneness with God then Satan is in big trouble. The truth will enrage Satan and this will cause Armageddon as Satan is cast out.

I did finish my book. When it is distributed sufficiently for the devil to take it seriously, then the end will come.

So what if it’s unorthodox; the solution to a riddle makes all the clues fit together without changing any of the clues, and that is what this does for the Bible.












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God did not punish Jesus. Death is necessary because it releases the soul. Jesus had to die in order to assume leadership over the universe. Christ now controls the gateway to heaven.

Salvation is about learning how God works, the universe and everything in it, and most of all, accepting it.

The trinity does not mean that there are three gods, it means that God is one singular being with three separate aspects. Think of it this way, the CEO of a company is a man who can direct his company sending E-mail, using the phone, or issuing paper notices for all to read.

God does exist in non-space/time.

Jesus is the executioner? I've never heard that description used towards Him. It sounds quite insulting.

Humans give Satan way too much credit. They use him as an excuse. He is nothing. He is like an ant and God is like the sun.

The end will come? Yes, a billion years from now when the sun expands and envelops the earth.
 
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StashLazarus

New Member
Super Universe said:
God did not punish Jesus. Death is necessary because it releases the soul. Jesus had to die in order to assume leadership over the universe. Christ now controls the gateway to heaven.

Salvation is about learning how God works, the universe and everything in it, and most of all, accepting it.

The trinity does not mean that there are three gods, it means that God is one singular being with three separate aspects. Think of it this way, the CEO of a company is a man who can direct his company sending E-mail, using the phone, or issuing paper notices for all to read.

God does exist in non-space/time.

Jesus is the executioner? I've never heard that description used towards Him. It sounds quite insulting.

Humans give Satan way too much credit. They use him as an excuse. He is nothing. He is like an ant and God is like the sun.

The end will come? Yes, a billion years from now when the sun expands and envelops the earth.
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1 True, God did not punish Jesus. Jesus had to die to go back to God and provide redemption.

2. Salvation is necessary since evil must be destroyed. Even a creature with a little evil cannot enjoy eternity. Heaven is not about the place to which we go, but changing us so that we are perfect and can enjoy eternity. It is that change to us that results in Heaven. We cannot achieve perfection in any amount of time on earth. It’s not just about mere forgiveness, Jesus makes us perfect creatures.


3. I disagree on the trinity. I would say one God at three levels of reality.

4-6. Agreed

7. The end is sooner than you realize. Have you been paying attention to Europe and the ME.
 
Super Universe

Super Universe

Defender of God
StashLazarus said:
1 True, God did not punish Jesus. Jesus had to die to go back to God and provide redemption.

2. Salvation is necessary since evil must be destroyed. Even a creature with a little evil cannot enjoy eternity. Heaven is not about the place to which we go, but changing us so that we are perfect and can enjoy eternity. It is that change to us that results in Heaven. We cannot achieve perfection in any amount of time on earth. It’s not just about mere forgiveness, Jesus makes us perfect creatures.


3. I disagree on the trinity. I would say one God at three levels of reality.

4-6. Agreed

7. The end is sooner than you realize. Have you been paying attention to Europe and the ME.
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Sure, I pay attention to Europe and the Middle East but that's Europe and the Middle East. I live in the US.
 
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1137

Here until I storm off again
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Super Universe said:
Sure, I pay attention to Europe and the Middle East but that's Europe and the Middle East. I live in the US.
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It's all interconnected, even in a non-spiritual sense. The outcome of these conflicts will affect the U.S. And we are not very stable anymore, you can sense revolution. While the end will be caused by the sun expanding and the universe freezing, I doubt humanity will least nearly as long, whether due to self caused extinction or further evolution.
 
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