Soak the Poor!

[Misunderstood]

Yes, that's exactly how America got populated. Europe's poor immigrated here.

OK, I guess you have much to learn. I recommend this book for you to read to start your education. Once you get though it and get the concepts I can recommend something a bit more comprehensive, or if you are more of a visual person, I could recommend some videos.

https://www.amazon.com/Where-Do-Bab...r=8-1&keywords=book+on+where+babies+come+from

 

[lewisnotmiller]

This issue is such programs do not scale when transitioning to a higher economic class. The same programs end when they reach a threshold thus creating an economic loss for the individual. This leaves a gap to climb back up before actually rising again in net income. That gap can be very hard to overcome.

Yep, I've experienced the joy of getting pay rises only to realise I'd lost family assistance benefits, childcare rebates, etc.
Was sometimes left wondering if I was better off or not. It's the joys of a tier-based system. My family was very much blue collar, and have gone through the social mobility thing in a personal sense.

Overall, i'd say the following;

I'm passionate about access to good free education. To me this is the number one way in which we empower people to improve their own situation.

I want access to university to be based primarily on aptitude. Any payments should be deferable, and held at reasonable levels, with reasonable obviously being completely subjective.

I also think access to good health care, child minding, rental housing and aged care is vital.

Those are the basics of a healthy society, to me. We have varying success on those measures here in Australia, but any one of those lacking limits in very real ways social mobility.

In terms of specific welfare programs, it gets much trickier, in so far as I think there is invariably a level of measurement or assessment involved, and it's impossible to have a 'fair' set of measures. The best I've seen is to limit the gross unfairness.

So in overall terms, I agree, specific measures can be counterproductive at an individual level. But some of the things most important to social mobility are around access, rather than provision of direct funding to individuals.

 

[Thief]

How dare the people who have benefited the least from a society get away with paying the least in taxes?

Should not the poor pay a greater percentage of their income than the rich to support a society that has given them less than it has given the rich? Is that not fair?

SOAK THE POOR!

I rose from poverty

and so now I work my *** off

and uncle Guido gets the first 28%

 

[Thief]

insurance gets $100 per week

the first $5000 out of pocket is mine to fess up

all is going to plan

not my plan.....Vinnie's

 

[Thief]

I don't dare mention the Spanish side of my family

too many knives

 

[Sunstone]

See there you go, they are hogging up all the jobs, so why shouldn't they be taxed more.

Your logic is flawless!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

We may be missing billions in taxes from the tax laws already in place. There is an entire industry who only purpose is to hide money from the taxman. I don't think the government is smart enough to nail down the wealth of the 1% regardless of what laws get past.

You don't think the government is smart enough to track down the money the commission to have made? The problem isn't finding it, the problem is passing laws to address that. The most that tends to ever happen is they are allowed to repatronize the money tax-free.