camanintx
Well-Known Member
Can you just imagine how crowded with plants and animals the Earth must have been just before the flood if all of the fossils, oil fields and chalk deposits in the world were created in that one event?
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Solution to carbon dating debate
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MSizer
MSizer
I'm through giving you the benefit of the doubt. I tried to believe you were just misinformed, but I systematically exposed the fallacy in what you say here in another thread by discussing the geological column and the absolute consistency of the fossil heirarchy within the column across the entire globe. I'm sorry I can't keep sympathizing with you anymore. You have been shown how this is false yet you continue to utter it. That is immoral and the implications of such behaviour are sadly greatly at odds with the struggle toward the elimination of human suffering. If you want to pray over your kids rather than allow them to have blood transfusions, or tell your kids that condoms increase the likelihood of AIDS, or that humans were dinosaurs herders, fine, but for the sake of the wellbeing of others, keep it inside your church where it's welcome (sadly).
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
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Man of Faith
Well-Known Member
Can you imagine common ancestry?
Man of Faith
Well-Known Member
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Humanistheart
Well-Known Member
No, it's not, at all. If it were you'd be able to cite some evidence, but you never do.
Veritas
New Member
where are the transitional form fossils? And please just because you hate God. Don't look at the actions of some people and try to sum up the Bible read it for yourself...
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Each and every fossil is a transitional form. You yourself are a transitional form.
Or are you looking for croco-ducks?
One cannot hate what one does not believe in. (Atheists)
You will find that most Atheists, Agnostics, Theists, Pantheists and Deists here have thoroughly read the Bible, along with other religious writings.
Vile Atheist
Loud and Obnoxious
Every fossil is a transitional form because something always transitions into another.
But I'm sure you mean certain specific fossils. Like ardipithecus? Or australopithecus?
JeLy
Member
Maybe he'd like a mermaid.
Vile Atheist
Loud and Obnoxious
A picture says a thousand words, but I can some it up in just seven. This is proof that evolution is false! The merpeople are harbingers of the Second Coming! I knew I boycotted Disney for a reason when they released "The Little Mermaid"
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Sure, can't you?
camanintx
Well-Known Member
Yes, thanks to the overwhelming amount of evidence.
Somehow, he didn't see that coming. :cover:
Alceste
Vagabond
Carbon dating is probably correct up to a point of about 3,500 to 4,000 years ago. What I understand about the evolutionary position is the assumption is made that the world has been pretty much stable since it came into existence billions of years ago, (uniformatarianism). The creationists position is the world came into existence about 6,000 years ago and about 4,000 years ago there was a world wide flood that affected the amount of carbon in the atmosphere and the pre-flood forests could have diluted the buildup of carbon. (catastrophism) We don't know what the carbon was like right after the beginning of the world.
Below is a picture that helps explain the controversy. The red line is the assumption by evolutionists and the blue line is the assumption by creationists.
“It is obvious that radiometric techniques may not be the absolute dating methods that they are claimed to be. Age estimates on a given geological stratum by different radiometric methods are often quite different (sometimes by hundreds of millions of years). There is no absolutely reliable long-term radiological ‘clock.’ ” William D. Stansfield, Science of Evolution (New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., 1977), p. 84.
This is ludicrous. Please explain the means by which the concentration of Carbon-12 in the atmosphere affects the atomic rate of decay in Carbon 14.
FYI, the reason C-14 is only reliable for a few thousand years is that the atomic rate of decay is relatively quick, with a half-life of 5730 years. If it were not constantly replenished by means that are well understood, there wouldn't be any of it left to test.
That's why we ALSO depend on Rubidium-87, Rhenium-187, Thorium-232, Uranium-238, Potassium-40, Uranium-235, Samarium-147, Iodine-129, and Aluminum-26, with half-lives ranging from 740,000 to 49,000,000,000 years.
Even if you manage to find evidence that carbon decayed at a different rate before "the flood" (which would require a fundamental re-write of the laws of physics), you still have the 36 OTHER unstable isotopes scientists use to establish the age of the earth and date geological and fossil evidence to deal with. All of them agree. None of them support your cherished creation myth.
Please wake up to the earth you're living on, for all our sakes.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Yea, Ice Core Samples are things of the devil,,,,
I haven't seen a plausible explanation from a creationist about those on the forum yet.
JeLy
Member
Yea, Ice Core Samples are things of the devil,,,,
I haven't seen a plausible explanation from a creationist about those on the forum yet.
I love ice cores! I equivocate them to the crime scene investigators looking for what happened at a particular place. We are the investigators, the Earth is our crime scene, and the ice cores are the "smoking gun," if you will. It's just brilliant how much stuff they can find in those chilly tubes.
Pffftt... "ice cores".
Everyone knows that obsidian hydration dating is the sexiest technique around. Or was it potassium-argon dating...?
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Is radiometric testing a better tool than carbon dating?