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Solving TERRORISM - soft power & building schools!

Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
We cannot sustainably fight a war on terror because terrorism is an ideological struggle using guerrilla tactics and unconventional warfare. Sooner or later, we'll come to realize that we have to fight ideas with ideas. We have to fight terrorism on the normative -- that is, to address the norms of terrorism as a standard means of address personal or ideological grievances in some areas into a taboo that is found to be as repulsive as other taboos on the individual level like child pornography, bestiality, and cannibalism. We have to back up the ideological fight not just with military application, but also with substantive means by using soft power such as opening more communication channels, helping with basics of nation building (schools and other very basic infrastructure), and using religion itself to undermine terrorism by advocating moderates and liberals to combat the extremists. Best part of all, application of soft power while cutting back on hardline military application would cost a lot less and is likely to have a much more positive long term effects.

While the military works on different methods of soft power, one that would have great impact immediately and for the long term is to invest in education. I cannot stress enough on how important schools are in terrorist prone countries. States like Afghanistan has a large population of school aged children and Yemen has over 50% of its population below 15 years of age, for example. Let's spend a few billions building schools, flood them with western and middle-eastern teachers and the necessary equipments supplies to make it all work. Get the local communities involved and invested in the education and future of their own children and they'll themselves protect and fend off terrorism at the ideological root. Don't involve the military to give terrorists a reason for striking schools and claiming to target the military presence. The repulsion factor of suicide bombings on schools that have 0 military presence or attacks on staffs that are there to help the youth will be do so much more to repulse terrorism in the local populace than we ever could with hard military power.

We made the mistake of investing billions to help the Mujahadeens fight the Russians in Afghanistan but not even a few million to help the huge population of school aged children in a war battered and failed state. Instead of helping to educate them with minimal investment, we left them to grow up to be a large population of uneducated and easily recruitable members for terrorist networks with plenty of personal and proxy grievances to go around.

We spend trillions on war efforts, but the question we should ask ourselves in the face of mounting deficits and unsustainable military spending is: would spending billions to invest in education of the same countries be more effective? After all, you attract more bees with honey than vinegar. Keep in mind this would not SOLVE terrorism because there's no such thing as a silver bullet in this topic. But I do think education would go a long way to address some of the root causes of terrorism -- xenophobia perpetuated by misperception and misunderstanding, lack of historical context, sense of personal or social identity, lack of opportunities stemming from lack of a skilled labor force to create any meaningful supplies to incite demand, etc.

Proof is in the pudding. Greg Mortenson, author of Best Selling book "Three Cups of Tea", has already been building schools to promote education in Pakistan and Afghanistan regions. So far, he's built 131 schools that are educating over 30,000 school aged children, many are females because they can become a firewall against terrorists since Jihadists first have to get permission from their mothers. He's involving the local community in the effort and they themselves are protecting the schools and fending off terrorist threats. It's been effective.

Terrorists need local support and failing that, their efforts become so much weaker. And, children need alternatives to violence. It's a win-win.
 
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dust1n

Zindīq
We cannot sustainably fight a war on terror because terrorism is an ideological struggle using guerrilla tactics and unconventional warfare. Sooner or later, we'll come to realize that we have to fight ideas with ideas. We have to fight terrorism on the normative -- that is, to address the norms of terrorism as a standard means of address personal or ideological grievances in some areas into a taboo that is found to be as repulsive as other taboos on the individual level like child pornography, bestiality, and cannibalism. We have to back up the ideological fight not just with military application, but also with substantive means by using soft power such as opening more communication channels, helping with basics of nation building (schools and other very basic infrastructure), and using religion itself to undermine terrorism by advocating moderates and liberals to combat the extremists. Best part of all, application of soft power while cutting back on hardline military application would cost a lot less and is likely to have a much more positive long term effects.

While the military works on different methods of soft power, one that would have great impact immediately and for the long term is to invest in education. I cannot stress enough on how important schools are in terrorist prone countries. States like Afghanistan has a large population of school aged children and Yemen has over 50% of its population below 15 years of age, for example. Let's spend a few billions building schools, flood them with western and middle-eastern teachers and the necessary equipments supplies to make it all work. Get the local communities involved and invested in the education and future of their own children and they'll themselves protect and fend off terrorism at the ideological root. Don't involve the military to give terrorists a reason for striking schools and claiming to target the military presence. The repulsion factor of suicide bombings on schools that have 0 military presence or attacks on staffs that are there to help the youth will be do so much more to repulse terrorism in the local populace than we ever could with hard military power.

We made the mistake of investing billions to help the Mujahadeens fight the Russians in Afghanistan but not even a few million to help the huge population of school aged children in a war battered and failed state. We should learn from history.

We spend trillions on war efforts, but the question we should ask ourselves in the face of mounting deficits and unsustainable military spending is: would spending billions to invest in education of the same countries be more effective? After all, you attract more bees with honey than vinegar.

You are suggesting that instead of putting 3 trillions dollars into a war to suppress anyone who isn't a capitalist, but rather, putting that money into education, multiplying the budget by thousands.. making everyone intelligent and capable of solving all the world's problems?

You must be a terrorist.
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
We cannot sustainably fight a war on terror because terrorism is an ideological struggle using guerrilla tactics and unconventional warfare. Sooner or later, we'll come to realize that we have to fight ideas with ideas. We have to fight terrorism on the normative -- that is, to address the norms of terrorism as a standard means of address personal or ideological grievances in some areas into a taboo that is found to be as repulsive as other taboos on the individual level like child pornography, bestiality, and cannibalism. We have to back up the ideological fight not just with military application, but also with substantive means by using soft power such as opening more communication channels, helping with basics of nation building (schools and other very basic infrastructure), and using religion itself to undermine terrorism by advocating moderates and liberals to combat the extremists. Best part of all, application of soft power while cutting back on hardline military application would cost a lot less and is likely to have a much more positive long term effects.

While the military works on different methods of soft power, one that would have great impact immediately and for the long term is to invest in education. I cannot stress enough on how important schools are in terrorist prone countries. States like Afghanistan has a large population of school aged children and Yemen has over 50% of its population below 15 years of age, for example. Let's spend a few billions building schools, flood them with western and middle-eastern teachers and the necessary equipments supplies to make it all work. Get the local communities involved and invested in the education and future of their own children and they'll themselves protect and fend off terrorism at the ideological root. Don't involve the military to give terrorists a reason for striking schools and claiming to target the military presence. The repulsion factor of suicide bombings on schools that have 0 military presence or attacks on staffs that are there to help the youth will be do so much more to repulse terrorism in the local populace than we ever could with hard military power.

We made the mistake of investing billions to help the Mujahadeens fight the Russians in Afghanistan but not even a few million to help the huge population of school aged children in a war battered and failed state. Instead of helping to educate them with minimal investment, we left them to grow up to be a large population of uneducated and easily recruitable members for terrorist networks with plenty of personal and proxy grievances to go around.

We spend trillions on war efforts, but the question we should ask ourselves in the face of mounting deficits and unsustainable military spending is: would spending billions to invest in education of the same countries be more effective? After all, you attract more bees with honey than vinegar. Keep in mind this would not SOLVE terrorism because there's no such thing as a silver bullet in this topic. But I do think education would go a long way to address some of the root causes of terrorism -- xenophobia perpetuated by misperception and misunderstanding, lack of historical context, sense of personal or social identity, lack of opportunities stemming from lack of a skilled labor force to create any meaningful supplies to incite demand, etc.

Proof is in the pudding. Greg Mortenson, author of Best Selling book "Three Cups of Tea", has already been building schools to promote education in Pakistan and Afghanistan regions. So far, he's built 131 schools that are educating over 30,000 school aged children, many are females because they can become a firewall against terrorists since Jihadists first have to get permission from their mothers. He's involving the local community in the effort and they themselves are protecting the schools and fending off terrorist threats. It's been effective.

Terrorists need local support and failing that, their efforts become so much weaker. And, children need alternatives to violence. It's a win-win.

Couldn't agree more. Education allows people to think more freely and decide things for themselves. Also it is non-violent and rather efficient.
 

Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
Education is the key to successful out come, but there is a huge inertia of cultural change. Can you build schools quicker than they are blown up without some sort of security to protect infrastructure. Can you convince a mother to send her child to school knowing she may have acid thrown in her face. Communication, education, infrastructure and stable accountable government are all needed to replace bullets.

I see a lot of "your enemy is my enemy so I will support you". The west then supports often corrupt governments, a fatal flaw in western strategy and doomed to failure. Billions have been spent in Afghanistan, supposedly on schools and hospitals, however after almost 10 years there are very few schools or hospitals but there are entire suburbs in Kabul of Palaces of marble and swimming pools for warlords and government cronies.

No wonder the Afghan people are frustrated and laugh at western efforts. The west has failed in both Iraq and Afghanistan and about to do it again in the failed state of Yemen, by not addressing this systemic root cause of violence, ie corrupt government.

Cheers
 

Ba'al

Active Member
We cannot sustainably fight a war on terror because terrorism is an ideological struggle using guerrilla tactics and unconventional warfare. Sooner or later, we'll come to realize that we have to fight ideas with ideas. We have to fight terrorism on the normative -- that is, to address the norms of terrorism as a standard means of address personal or ideological grievances in some areas into a taboo that is found to be as repulsive as other taboos on the individual level like child pornography, bestiality, and cannibalism. We have to back up the ideological fight not just with military application, but also with substantive means by using soft power such as opening more communication channels, helping with basics of nation building (schools and other very basic infrastructure), and using religion itself to undermine terrorism by advocating moderates and liberals to combat the extremists. Best part of all, application of soft power while cutting back on hardline military application would cost a lot less and is likely to have a much more positive long term effects.

While the military works on different methods of soft power, one that would have great impact immediately and for the long term is to invest in education. I cannot stress enough on how important schools are in terrorist prone countries. States like Afghanistan has a large population of school aged children and Yemen has over 50% of its population below 15 years of age, for example. Let's spend a few billions building schools, flood them with western and middle-eastern teachers and the necessary equipments supplies to make it all work. Get the local communities involved and invested in the education and future of their own children and they'll themselves protect and fend off terrorism at the ideological root. Don't involve the military to give terrorists a reason for striking schools and claiming to target the military presence. The repulsion factor of suicide bombings on schools that have 0 military presence or attacks on staffs that are there to help the youth will be do so much more to repulse terrorism in the local populace than we ever could with hard military power.

We made the mistake of investing billions to help the Mujahadeens fight the Russians in Afghanistan but not even a few million to help the huge population of school aged children in a war battered and failed state. Instead of helping to educate them with minimal investment, we left them to grow up to be a large population of uneducated and easily recruitable members for terrorist networks with plenty of personal and proxy grievances to go around.

We spend trillions on war efforts, but the question we should ask ourselves in the face of mounting deficits and unsustainable military spending is: would spending billions to invest in education of the same countries be more effective? After all, you attract more bees with honey than vinegar. Keep in mind this would not SOLVE terrorism because there's no such thing as a silver bullet in this topic. But I do think education would go a long way to address some of the root causes of terrorism -- xenophobia perpetuated by misperception and misunderstanding, lack of historical context, sense of personal or social identity, lack of opportunities stemming from lack of a skilled labor force to create any meaningful supplies to incite demand, etc.

Proof is in the pudding. Greg Mortenson, author of Best Selling book "Three Cups of Tea", has already been building schools to promote education in Pakistan and Afghanistan regions. So far, he's built 131 schools that are educating over 30,000 school aged children, many are females because they can become a firewall against terrorists since Jihadists first have to get permission from their mothers. He's involving the local community in the effort and they themselves are protecting the schools and fending off terrorist threats. It's been effective.

Terrorists need local support and failing that, their efforts become so much weaker. And, children need alternatives to violence. It's a win-win.


Why do you insist America needs to occupy other countries in the first place? And why do you think America should try to solve the problems of other countries, especially when they don't even want your help?
 

Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
Education is the key to successful out come, but there is a huge inertia of cultural change. Can you build schools quicker than they are blown up without some sort of security to protect infrastructure. Can you convince a mother to send her child to school knowing she may have acid thrown in her face.

The trick has been in making it a community effort. Greg Mortenson has already done just that. The schools he's building in Pakistan and Afghanistan work in the local sphere of influence and the villagers are protecting the schools from terrorists. No military required. If you really think about it, it's an interesting scenario for terrorists. One one hand, they do want to disrupt any formal education, but on the other hand, without local support, it's probably too much trouble and just isn't worth their while killing their own people. They'd also polarize the audience and they cannot lose support at the local level because often times, that's their bread and butter.
 

Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
Why do you insist America needs to occupy other countries in the first place? And why do you think America should try to solve the problems of other countries, especially when they don't even want your help?

America has long protected its interests and has been underwriting global security for the better part of a century. Along the way, we've made plenty of mistakes, especially in the middle east, especially fighting unconventional warfare, and careless in helping to fuel future unconventional groups in terrorists.

America does not need to occupy other countries and that's not our official intentions in either Iraq or Afghanistan. We do need to help solve other state's problems when terrorist groups originating from those areas are attacking American targets foreign and domestic. Our security is no longer ending at just our physical borders. With unconventional warfare being waged, we have to fight it in equally unconventional ways.
 
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