Some questions about evolution (genetics etc) and possible implications for creationism

[SkepticThinker]

What is funny is that you can't even comprehend about morphing. (Slowly, of course... ) Very slowly, according to -- you. And other "evolutionists."

Evolution doesn't say anything "morphs."
That's just another of your misunderstandings of it that have been corrected countless times.

 

[rational experiences]

Theists in science a chosen human practice of a human inhuman presence is a liar.

You use language words to coerce satanic practice.

God conditions nation DNA scattered language saved us. Otherwise science who used letter in O number evaluation science themed words would have destroyed us all.

Letters he says are angles that formed words.

The teaching against scientific human liars.

One word in the heavens only gods flow form as spirit movement cooling heavens versus sacrificed gas spirit in void.

O G spiral said from radiation . Dot point moved out at side as - into G spiral back to O. O I into DD two back to back into OO.

Movements of natural earths heavenly protection. One word only GOD. Scientific established heavens spirit of face upon deep in womb.

God. Mother of God. One and Only sacrificed spirit gas natural light. Holy body of three in the heavens as spirit.

Gods human protection advice about heavens was God only.

Men of science falsified language introduced a calculated science language.

Does not use nor own natural language.

Ground irradiated mass is different on gods earth face. Each human nation owns its new DNA. By sex human sex in gods earth garden.

Exactly what was said evolution is a Lie.

Water holy oxygen tree nature generation owned life. Nature bush tree was irradiated burnt off face of earth. We got nature evicted loss of oxygen in life's water.

Known.

Once desert was not abundant nature was.

Sex is why humans exist. Radiation removed by ice saviour mass renewal of its body naturally in seasonal changes. Burning higher heavens gas stopped the unnatural irradiating fall of man.

Kept us life sacrificed and sick.

Sex kept us life present.

Science doesn't own the human history of human sex in thesis.

God did...natural life.

Theists are liars.

 

[YoursTrue]

What I learn everyday has nothing to do with these discussions usually.
Exception would be things I learn from nature... That convince me more and more than we live in a designed universe.

The more I "look into" the theory of evolution, the more I realize it does not have to be -- true. In fact -- (Oh, well...later...) I've read, heard the arguments (theories) about it, and like you, nature is astoundingly fabulous and I do not believe it "came about" by itself. Kind of, however an evolutionist would term it.

 

[YoursTrue]

Evolution doesn't say anything "morphs."
That's just another of your misunderstandings of it that have been corrected countless times.

Whether it uses the word morph or not, evolution purports that things morph. Called perhaps in the parlance of evolutionists, mutate.

 

[YoursTrue]

It's actually the perfect analogy.

Human language is composed of tons and tons of different languages; it's not one big language. English, French and Spanish evolved from Latin. But there was never a Latin speaking mother that gave birth to a French speaking baby. Even just the English language alone is composed of so many different dialects, depending on what part of a country a person is from, or even what town they're from. The English language of just 500 years ago is pretty difficult to read for a modern English speaker. Hence the reason we have trouble with Shakespeare, for instance. Irish people speak English, but not the same English I speak in North America. There's a dialect in South Africa that I heard recently that sounds like English, but definitely isn't the English I speak.
I really don't understand why you don't understand such a perfect analogy.
Perhaps it is because you don't understand evolution.

Again, just to be helpful, it's not biological evolution according to the Darwinian kind. Similarly, the way different societies dress is also not "biologic" evolution. Since you insist it is, yes, this discussion is jes... about...over.

 

[YoursTrue]

A N A L O G Y.
ANALOGY | Definition of ANALOGY by Oxford Dictionary on Lexico.com also meaning of ANALOGY

There are good analogies and bad analogies. To compare the modes of dress or language in various cultures as Darwinian type biologic evolution is over the fringe. (In other words, not a good analogy at all.) Have a great day.

 

[YoursTrue]

That's funny.

Seriously dude, consider what is being said to you by several people who actually understand evolution and how it operates. We're trying to help you understand.

Again, just to consider, if you really think that societal evolution, including change of language, is analogous to the darwinian model of biologic evolution, that is a deep divide between what you understand about evolution and belief, and the actual idea. Remember, have a nice day.

 

[rational experiences]

Humans spiritual advice O God came about as a release from a place of spirit. Spirit body original form.

Spirit manifestations emerged from nuclear human science causes the occult prove that energy had in fact pre existed in a state of spirit. As some higher form.

By witness evil spirit.

Science said space was a womb that sat within the body it was released from. The eternal.

Burning had caused owned the separation.

The eternal is not in creation. It is not space and not in space. Gods bodies were O or scattered In pre owned gods gone. God sits within the space womb.

God is no longer any eternal form.

Burnt cooled evolved eternal bodies. The God form.

God had gone by separation into hell burning. God highest form the sealed O body. Evolved by womb status cooled pressured. Space opening closing contracting.

We said spirit was forced by gods heavens to come out again as the eternal as the heavens at ground state with water mass filled in the spatial plane once voided. No connection.

Why the eternal billions of released spirits took on biology in water form. The highest holiest God spirit.

One mass water status the same. Billions instant diverse bodies not the same. Hence pre form already owned.

Science the human theist owns science as a machine practice versus where life came from naturally.

Science did not invent our life by a human applied science theory.

Reason common sense water was created as a separate body in out of space. By pressures of space.

Its highest holding saving it was ice.

Pre existed as a body of mass itself. We had to have entered the mass.

Science argues a human created life presence. As if a human was a God.

A human consciously knows it recreates it's owned human form. All applications to think impose the belief or story. By human consciousness just as a human.

Ownership status the self a human only speaks as a human for a human ignored by egotists.

Humans told our story said our parents came out of the eternal spirit not in creation.

Science states we lie.

Science has to think as a human to apply science by calculus.

Built machines to anti life.

We don't lie.

Our eternal story causes no harm. We can believe where we came from doing no harm. We still only live as a human in natural human terms.

Science by machines forces it's status into and upon life is not just a human story or a Human belief. It is applied by an object a machine.

Built by humans we once termed were Satanists who theory to burn us to death. Claiming one form radiation created life.

Sun theists.

As we are human correct.

 

[rational experiences]

Again, just to be helpful, it's not biological evolution according to the Darwinian kind. Similarly, the way different societies dress is also not "biologic" evolution. Since you insist it is, yes, this discussion is jes... about...over.

O G spiral from heavenly dot point is heavens as the mass ignored. Mass . Dot point radiation effect - G spiral into O O splits DD into O O.

One word only God. Is not JES. As if you say YES.

Science began its calculus as PHI.

So why lie?

Phi lo sophy coercion. As you don't speak on behalf of god as a human man. Why humans know science is a liar

O God states are all natural in cosmic history.

Science talks about all changed forms of O earth the planets body naturally present forms O earth mass owns.... or pre living destroyed forms as you already are human conscious.

Aware you don't live in nor own any other natural present body or body type are just a human.

Why Phi sophism was a cunning. contrivance because it is.

A human confesses they don't want to just be self owned as a human today natural life human by using and preaching teaching other motivated human choices.

As a human want.

Is termed lying. Why the bible was a shut case. It's realisations stated do not give earth science conversion stated naming ever again. Humans Swore a legal oath to only tell a human truth.

Betrayed by the men who instituted human law for human safety.

 

[SkepticThinker]

The more I "look into" the theory of evolution, the more I realize it does not have to be -- true. In fact -- (Oh, well...later...) I've read, heard the arguments (theories) about it, and like you, nature is astoundingly fabulous and I do not believe it "came about" by itself. Kind of, however an evolutionist would term it.

What's an evolutionist?

Do you mean a biologist? Do you mean a geneticist? Do you mean a geologist? Do you mean a paleontologist? Do you mean a paleobotanist?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Again, just to consider, if you really think that societal evolution, including change of language, is analogous to the darwinian model of biologic evolution, that is a deep divide between what you understand about evolution and belief, and the actual idea. Remember, have a nice day.

That's rich coming from a person who doesn't understand evolution in the slightest. Or the perfect analogy that illustrates how evolution works.
Be honest, you didn't even read through it and think about it at all, did you? I'll bet you also didn't notice that all the people on this thread who actually understand evolution have all used the same analogy in trying to help you understand evolution and how it works.

 

[rational experiences]

Every one of us is a natural human first.

Common sense is meant to be used first.

O earth is owning every single condition naturally as it's condition.

Heavens natural. We are in biology taught we are water oxygen bio chemical bodies. Human only.

Equal and human knowing every status is in two different bodies of mass earth O or heavens natural. What we think about first.

Common human sense.

Then human egotists. Ist.

All the ists that denote to other humans look at what I see. What I describe. What I preach.

My common sense human answer is....from looking.
So what. You don't own it. You are looking too.

Ignored. Yet you too are meant to apply common sense first.

So then we face the ist theist.

I will tell you says a human how we got created. The theist lots of different human types as ist.

Common sense asks what for?

Next minute out of all the human studies a machine by design is built. Humans thinking control the machines. Use the machines consciously human thinking.

Human advised Multi times don't let technology machines destroy life on earth.

Ignored.

Claiming my human theism knows everything.

So spiritual human versus theism all theisms. Theist storytellers first.

My spiritual story says human first parents were real and lived. Atmospheric recorded psychic detailed advice proven. Records. Came out from the eternal owning a pre eternal body that converted into a human.

By entering the atmosphere.

Versus....God created you theisms. All ists.

All theories human for the argument human sciences.

So my first argument against science is hasn't man.....ifested evil spirits proven to you that science manifested it as cause effect?

And the body creation hence was and had been released from a place of spirit first?

No says science as scientific evolution ists.

Science of occult studies knows otherwise also ists.

Their argument science. My human ists.

My argument not science at all. It is spiritual.

To a ......the ist who says God somehow did it.

Gods heavenly body now sits side by side to the eternal. Space removed burnt out eternal caused the separation.

My spiritual ancient brother hence said space is the womb that sits inside the body eternal. Only a portion of the eternal changed into creation.

As the O God earth heavens filled in the empty spatial plane first. We know we never began in space.

We live walking through a heavenly space.

So vibration of earths heavens altered the body eternal. Where all bio spirit was released from.

Science says you have no scientific proof hence it is not proof.

I say science you own no spiritual proof as it is spiritual.

So they look for a human reason why all single self present bodies are similar in presence yet not the same.

Only known by personal human choice to apply all the studies.

As all self present whole bodies seen already tells us all bodies exist together in the same moment yet are varied by billions of forms.

To see a body it is ended to own it's form.

So science says one base form has to own all presence due to the similarities in vastly different bodies.

The answer is they were pre owned as their own spirit body type first.

As the spirit body owns their own presence.

Satan ists tried to claim first life spirit was a cloud. As all modern day life image human and animals are in clouds.

Some earth images are seen in out of space star gases.

Dinosaur images are seen in clouds. They don't live today.

Theory wrong.

Now if earth sciences created machines it would prove how earth images were transmitted images into out of space.

As earth life is within our water atmosphere.

Gases by type involved physically in transmitted machine conditions

Machine conditions encoded atmospheric conditions past. Today. And the atmospheric mass our natural future is not any machine status

Scientists however told the public they own machine technology ten thousand years ahead of it's time.

Ludicrous. They are using old ancient men science wisdom of cause effects.

The machine warnings about past machines modern machines future machines.

Coming back attacking destroying life via technology. Ignored. As using God earth theisms.

If science uses earth God theisms then how could a common sense human claim God for their presence as I am not any machine?

The answer the machine thesis UFO alien. More ists.

Now humans claim I was a human inside the alien machine.

Other stories say aliens will consume us as food. Why we live for the outcome. We are their slaves.

I look at that advice and see humans in the sciences. Past and present.

So when humans express every ist theirselves looking. I see you as my natural living equal. Your human ego says otherwise.

 

[night912]

What is funny is that you can't even comprehend about morphing. (Slowly, of course... ) Very slowly, according to -- you. And other "evolutionists."

Whether it uses the word morph or not, evolution purports that things morph. Called perhaps in the parlance of evolutionists, mutate.

If that's really what you think, then why did you object when i presented you with the tadpole and frog example? A tadpole morphed into a frog, one form morphing into another form. And this did not happen slowly either, as in not taking thousands or millions of years to morph from one form into another. Obviously, a tadpole is not the same form as a frog. So clearly, this is exactly what you were looking for, as described by you.

 

[night912]

Whether it uses the word morph or not, evolution purports that things morph. Called perhaps in the parlance of evolutionists, mutate.

Just like the thing we called the Latin language, morphed into three different things that we called, English, French and Spanish. And obviously, those three things, remained being language(s). So it was a good analogy.

 

[night912]

There are good analogies and bad analogies. To compare the modes of dress or language in various cultures as Darwinian type biologic evolution is over the fringe. (In other words, not a good analogy at all.) Have a great day.

Good to know that you've acknowledged your strawman and retracted it, then admitted that it was in fact, an analogy. Kudos for the honesty.

Good, bad, ugly, but it sure wasn't a false analogy for you to recognize it as being an analogy used to compare it to biologic evolution.

 

[Yerda]

Again, just to consider, if you really think that societal evolution, including change of language, is analogous to the darwinian model of biologic evolution, that is a deep divide between what you understand about evolution and belief, and the actual idea. Remember, have a nice day.

The point of speaking of one thing (biological descent) in terms of another (linguistic descent) is to draw out features that can be seen more simply in the other thing (this is why our languages is full of metaphor - its really very difficult to speak without it).

So, no-one is saying that human language changing over time is literally evolution in the biological sense of the word. Only that the way languages are modified with descent and have ancestry mirrors the way species are modified with descent and have ancestry and pointing to the case of language can illuminate the case in biology.

 

[YoursTrue]

The point of speaking of one thing (biological descent) in terms of another (linguistic descent) is to draw out features that can be seen more simply in the other thing (this is why our languages is full of metaphor - its really very difficult to speak without it).

So, no-one is saying that human language changing over time is literally evolution in the biological sense of the word. Only that the way languages are modified with descent and have ancestry mirrors the way species are modified with descent and have ancestry and pointing to the case of language can illuminate the case in biology.

Thank you for your reply. From what I see here, many people here do liken language development and moving from one language to another in terms of evolution as if it's of the biologic (not metaphoric or societal) kind. As I contemplate the difference of language(s), it makes sense to me that God Himself turned the one language early mankind spoke to that of differences where groups could not understand one another, as related in the book of Genesis.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thank you for your reply. From what I see here, many people here do liken language development and moving from one language to another in terms of evolution as if it's of the biologic (not metaphoric or societal) kind. As I contemplate the difference of language(s), it makes sense to me that God Himself turned the one language early mankind spoke to that of differences where groups could not understand one another, as related in the book of Genesis.

How does that "make sense". Just like in evolution we can observe how languages change in real time. We have records of time of when certain languages did not exist and we can observe them evolving through the literature of the time. We never have observed a magical being change the language of any group. So on one side we have something that is observed today and can be observed in the past and on the other side you have magic. How does magic ever "make sense". It only makes sense if one does not use any reasoning at all.

 

[YoursTrue]

An analogy does not require the same mechanisms operate, just ones that work in a similar fashion. As I'm sure you know, really, even it suits you to claim the analogy doesn't work.

How much DNA do humans share with other animals? (thednatests.com)

 

[Subduction Zone]

How much DNA do humans share with other animals? (thednatests.com)

One has to be careful when measuring relative amounts of DNA and it looks as if your source was not. There are different ways of measuring similarity and if one uses a different method for orangutans than one does for pigs it might look like pigs are ore closely related to us than orangutans are by the numbers without any qualifications. In fact if you scan down to where they get specific about pigs their sources in a scientific one. In other words they screwed the pooch and you need not take all of their claims seriously.