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Something from nothing...

chinu

chinu
yet, there is no proven explanation as to how matter evolved from quantum foam to solid substance.
Animations in the video game appear as soild substance for other animations in the game, yes! they can touch each other.. they can hit each other.. But all these animations always lies in quantum foam and as well as soild foam in front of the game creator/animator.

Similary.. the whole creation including humans is an animation, which appear as solid subtance for each other, But.. always lies in the quantum foam, and as well as soild foam in front of the creator/animator/God. :)
 
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Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Animations in the video game appear as soild substance for other animations in the game, yes! they can touch each other.. they can hit each other.. But all these animations always lies in quantum foam and as well as soild foam in front of the game creator/animator.

Similary.. the whole creation including humans is an animation, which appear as solid subtance for each other, But.. always lies in the quantum foam, and as well as soild foam in front of the creator/animator/God. :)
I didn't realize God is math.
 

predavlad

Skeptic
Animations in the video game appear as soild substance for other animations in the game, yes! they can touch each other.. they can hit each other.. But all these animations always lies in quantum foam and as well as soild foam in front of the game creator/animator.

Similary.. the whole creation including humans is an animation, which appear as solid subtance for each other, But.. always lies in the quantum foam, and as well as soild foam in front of the creator/animator/God. :)

You're kind of confusing mecanical things with biological things. You can't compare the creation of an animation with the creation of humans - we know where humans come from - a long process of evolution that started from single celled, self-replicating organisms.

And by the way - is there a physicist that can confirm what you're saying? Ideally an article in a peer reviewed journal.
 

Leyora

Essentia Omnia
Throw some Dark Matter into this discussion.

It's something science is sure to be real....but no proof!!!!!!!!

There's no proof because it's a hypothetical concept. Evidence and models would be needed if it wasn't, and then it would be classified as a theory.

There's "proposed evidence" but not enough to create a model... Which is what a theory is.

It's basically a "fill in the blank" answer for phenomena that SHOULD work in a particular way, but doesn't.

Dark matter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Keep in mind there are actually working theories that work with dark matter. These theories work on their own with the dark matter... but it doesn't prove WHAT the dark matter is.

It's like filling an algebraic equation with a variable that works for probable outcomes.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Ah, the old "Who created God?" conundrum.

The faithful insist that everything must have a cause; a designer; a beginning, yet God somehow gets a pass.
 

chinu

chinu
You're kind of confusing mecanical things with biological things. You can't compare the creation of an animation with the creation of humans - we know where humans come from - a long process of evolution that started from single celled, self-replicating organisms.
If you think that somebody can bring God infront of you alive, Than you are in a big doubt. :)
And by the way - is there a physicist that can confirm what you're saying?
Yes, he lives in heaven. :)
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
There's no proof because it's a hypothetical concept. Evidence and models would be needed if it wasn't, and then it would be classified as a theory.

There's "proposed evidence" but not enough to create a model... Which is what a theory is.

It's basically a "fill in the blank" answer for phenomena that SHOULD work in a particular way, but doesn't.

Dark matter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Keep in mind there are actually working theories that work with dark matter. These theories work on their own with the dark matter... but it doesn't prove WHAT the dark matter is.

It's like filling an algebraic equation with a variable that works for probable outcomes.

I happen to love science. Been watching the recent documentaries.
But as the 'problem solvers go about explanation...in layman terms....
it is obvious...
Their equations are showing more problems than answers.

The universe is gaining speed as it expands...
Small particles do appear to 'pop' out of nothing.....
The total sum of substance seems to have large pieces missing...
And gravity wells do not crush matter beyond information.

None of this is conclusive....just more problems.

Only a few, dare to mention...God.
 

Heathen Hammer

Nope, you're still wrong
God doesn't answer any of those questions, that's why they don't mention him. He's nothing but more problems that contribute nothing even if they were answered.
 

predavlad

Skeptic
If you think that somebody can bring God infront of you alive, Than you are in a big doubt. :)
I'm sorry, that's white noise, not a response to my argument.

Yes, he lives in heaven. :)
How do you know it's a he ?

This is a stupid question, I admit, but I wanted to make you realize that we all make assumptions that are not founded on anything. Why do you assume that you're right - and furthermore that other people should take what you say for granted - when you don't bring any proof supporting your claims ?
 

chinu

chinu
I'm sorry, that's white noise, not a response to my argument.
Actually am not a good with singing. :)
How do you know it's a he ?
That because.. am SHE (soul) :D
This is a stupid question, I admit, but I wanted to make you realize that we all make assumptions that are not founded on anything. Why do you assume that you're right - and furthermore that other people should take what you say for granted - when you don't bring any proof supporting your claims ?
Still people are fighting for the proofs; Was jesus god ?, Or was muhammed god ?, Or was buddha god ? etc..
If people are helpless to believe such valuable masters of the history, Than what value would have mine given proofs may carry ? Nothing in think.

Thus its sufficent for those who are really intrested.. i think.:)
 

predavlad

Skeptic
Still people are fighting for the proofs; Was jesus god ?, Or was muhammed god ?, Or was buddha god ? etc..
If people are helpless to believe such valuable masters of the history, Than what value would have mine given proofs may carry ? Nothing in think.

Thus its sufficent for those who are really intrested.. i think.:)
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Claims with no evidence can be dismissed without evidence. (not sure who originally said this, I read the version by Christopher Hitchens).

And the existance of a god is definitely an extraordinary claim. The evidence for it ? Slim to none, leaning towards none. Does religion provide at least something that cannot be gained otherwise, special wisdom, or good morals ? Nope, every piece of wisdom you can get from the bible you can get from plenty other places, and you need good morals to read the bible or else you would end up killing people who mow their lawn on the Sabbath, or forcing rapists to marry their victims (this is still going on in certain islamic countries).

And unlike the greek mythology (I may be biased here) which is a very good read, the bible or the quran are such badly written books.

The simple fact that many people don't need evidence to believe in something doesn't really make it true. There are still people who believe Elvis is alive, despite the fact that he's been dead for over 30 years.

So do you believe god exists simply because you want to believe it exists?
 

Heathen Hammer

Nope, you're still wrong
Coloring my perspective with your own?

I have no complaint about the universe.
The universe is gaining speed as it expands...
Small particles do appear to 'pop' out of nothing.....
The total sum of substance seems to have large pieces missing...
And gravity wells do not crush matter beyond information.

None of this is conclusive....just more problems.
No need to lie
 
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