I believe demons are real.And can kill people like in Job 1:18-19.
Well, first, let’s try to be accurate & discuss your comment. You said, “demons…. can kill people
like in Job 1:18-19.”
But the account doesn’t mention demons, does it? The account only mentions Satan, at Job 1:6-12 & Job 2:1-7.
No demons. The point I’m making, is we need to be accurate when talking about the Bible. The Bible itself says @ 1 Corinthians 4:6…“do not go beyond the things that are written.” And Proverbs 2:11, according to some versions, encourage us to use “sound judgement and good sense” (Contemporary English Version), “intelligence” (Lamsa Aramaic Translation), “thoughtfulness” (Young’s Literal Translation; per
Proverbs 2:11 Parallel: Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:), or “thinking ability” (New World Translation on JW.org) to arrive at accurate conclusions about anything.
(I will get into *
evidence* for demons, near the end of this post.)
But certainly, as you implied, Hebrews 2:14 informs us that the Devil
does have “the means to cause death.” Jesus supported that idea, when he called Satan “a manslayer” at John 8:44.
Regarding the existence of demons …we have to consider what the (Biblical) Scriptures say on this.
The first instance is at Genesis 6:1-4, where it mentions “sons of the true God”; this phrase is only used a few times in the Hebrew Scriptures — twice at Genesis 6:2-4, Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7, and (“sons of God”) at Psalms 89:6 — where it only applies to spirit creatures. On top of this, we have the Apostle Peter’s words at 2 Peter 2:4-5 about the “angels who sinned” in Noah’s day, and Jude’s statement at Jude 1:6 about “angels that forsook their proper dwelling place”.
(Many still claim, though, that these “sons of God” are descendants of Seth, but why claim that, when there is no evidence for that? IMO, it’s part of the evidence supporting the existence of forces working against God and deceiving everyone: Satan and the demons. -Revelation 12:9)
If we analyze what are the Bible’s very first comments about death, we find something simple to understand…
We agree that God is love, and He cannot lie, right?
So let’s examine God’s first words on death at Genesis 2:17…what did Jehovah say to Adam?
“….but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for in the day you eat from it you will surely die.”
Now, if the dead go to ‘another realm to live’, which is what almost everyone believes about death…then
how come Jehovah God didn’t tell Adam that?? I mean, if that is the truth?
So God told Adam, ‘you will die,’
but provided no further information!
And omission of relevant facts is a form of lying.
The question then is, “What did Adam already know about death?”
Since God gave him
no other information, Adam
must have seen the animals die. What did he observe from animals dying? Nothing, just them decaying. They became dust.
Isn’t that what Jehovah told Adam would happen to
him, when he died? (Genesis 3:19) And this is supported by other Scripture. —Ecclesiastes 3:19-20.
[Romans 12:1-2 implies the need for us to use our “power of reason.” (Some versions say “reasonable service”, an ambiguous phrase, to me.)]
***Continued from yesterday***
There are quite a few more Bible passages which corroborates this idea…
One is Daniel 12:2, which says “many who
sleep in the ground of dust will awake.”
Sleep is a figurative description of the dead, and it’s adequate to a point; there are several similarities between sleep and death, but there’s one big difference: we can awaken from sleep on our own, or someone else wake us. But with death, the Bible states only the future Resurrection (John 6:44; Acts of the Apostles 24:15) can do that!
But if you think about it: why would the Bible promise a future resurrection of the dead, if the dead were already living ‘in another realm’? That doesn’t make any sense!
So the dead are dead.
Now here’s the evidence for demons (well, a big part of it anyways):
Do you know how many people claim to have spoken or currently speak with their dead loved ones? Through spirit mediums, Ouija boards, or other means? Some highly respected & rational-thinking people get involved with these things! Or maybe they claim to have seen entities that are supposed to be ghosts of the dead, as in Lincoln’s ghost
Lincoln's ghost - Wikipedia ??
But the dead can’t do this, if they’re “not aware” of anything! Ecclesiastes 9:5
So who must be the sources behind these 1000’s of documented individual experiences?
Beyond the fact that this deception is relatively easy to pull off (because humans want to believe their dead loved ones are still living), there is another aspect of this ‘dead-are-living’ claim that we can reason on. I’ll get into that, tomorrow.
Just keep an open mind about these things; for this is a deception of great magnitude…. It is global. Revelation 12:9 underscores this.
I hope we can discuss this further..