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Southern Border - My Point Is Now Confirmed

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
As I have said from the beginning, I am not against immigration. My wife is an immigrant!

I’m against unfettered, unchecked, porous borders.

Why you may ask?

Do we really need to ask? :)

 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
When it comes to U.S. citizenry:
How do you suppose Canada felt in the 1960s?
How do you suppose Mexico felt from about 1850 to about 1940?
How will both feel if the U.S. turns to a government of similar merit of Venezuela or Haiti?
Food for thought...
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
None of this is new. People are showing up at the border and intentionally turning themselves into Border Patrol. (a legal process)
Very few are trying to cross the border evading detection.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
As I have said from the beginning, I am not against immigration. My wife is an immigrant!

I’m against unfettered, unchecked, porous borders.

Why you may ask?

Do we really need to ask? :)

The situation is causing crime to proliferate. It’s terrible…


 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
When it comes to U.S. citizenry:
How do you suppose Canada felt in the 1960s?
How do you suppose Mexico felt from about 1850 to about 1940?
How will both feel if the U.S. turns to a government of similar merit of Venezuela or Haiti?
Food for thought...
not understanding your thoughts here.

What happened to Canada that makes it similar?
What happened to Mexico from 1850 - 1940?

And how do the both of these correlate to the millions that are passing through our borders?

And the last is conjecture. Application?
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
In the 1960s anti-war protestors, a.k.a. draft-dodgers fled to Canada in droves.

Post war, for decades, U.S. outlaws crossed the border to hide out in Mexico.

If you ever read the dystopian novel by Cormac McCarthy, please think about what it would feel like from this side to have a border wall. You know, fences not only keep things out, they keep things IN.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
As I have said from the beginning, I am not against immigration. My wife is an immigrant!

I’m against unfettered, unchecked, porous borders.

Why you may ask?

Do we really need to ask? :)

Well.... Being here legally even presents a danger. The terrorist of 9/11 were even trained to fly at US flight schools.

"One was here on a student visa and of the other 18 9/11 hijackers, 14 came to the United States on six-month tourist visas and four came on business visas, according to the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States."

9/11 Hijackers and Student Visas - FactCheck.org
 
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Colt

Well-Known Member
As I have said from the beginning, I am not against immigration. My wife is an immigrant!

I’m against unfettered, unchecked, porous borders.

Why you may ask?

Do we really need to ask? :)

Irresponsible (D)’s enable illegal invasion by establishing sanctuary cities and states all across America. Immigrants just need to get there and can then live in an underground world of exploitation as second class non-citizens! Mostly good hard working people.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
In the 1960s anti-war protestors, a.k.a. draft-dodgers fled to Canada in droves.

Post war, for decades, U.S. outlaws crossed the border to hide out in Mexico.

If you ever read the dystopian novel by Cormac McCarthy, please think about what it would feel like from this side to have a border wall. You know, fences not only keep things out, they keep things IN.
I don’t see the comparison. Those who went to Canada and Mexico weren’t there to destroy their countries and were received. I’m talking about those who are coming in to destroy America and there is no way to stop them.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Do we really need to ask?

Yes you do. The US was founded on a principle of being a refuge for the "least". The solution which the right hates is to fund the agency responsible to make that determination so it can try to determine who are indeed the least and who are not.

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Matthew 25:35-40 KJV​

for I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
I don’t see the comparison. Those who went to Canada and Mexico weren’t there to destroy their countries and were received. I’m talking about those who are coming in to destroy America and there is no way to stop them.
We're destroying ourselves from the inside out.

I didn't look at your link, I'll admit. I did look at another posted on this thread -- a Daily Mail post -- and I'm afraid I ranked it as a Speculative Sensationalism piece. We have far too many of those. I follow 3 news sources daily and have not seen any such speculation or concern.

It's an election year and the sensationalist "news" will be riding high for ratings that bring the dinero. Seeing a story from a minimum of 2 opposing views, and 1 more for safety, prior to accepting it as being news-worthy, is my filter.

Stay calm, and carry on.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Yes you do. The US was founded on a principle of being a refuge for the "least". The solution which the right hates is to fund the agency responsible to make that determination so it can try to determine who are indeed the least and who are not.

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Matthew 25:35-40 KJV​

for I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
"The US was founded on a principle of being a refuge for the "least".

Tell that to Native Americans.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I do not think that anyone opposes going after those people (well except for Trump). The problem is that the high visibility people tend to be migrants. They do not tend to be young men in camouflage. Trump is going after the low hanging fruit of asylum seekers and migrants. He only gives lip service to those that are cutting across that farmer's land.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Yes you do. The US was founded on a principle of being a refuge for the "least". The solution which the right hates is to fund the agency responsible to make that determination so it can try to determine who are indeed the least and who are not.

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Matthew 25:35-40 KJV​

for I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
As I said at the beginning…. I am for immigration - from the least to the greatest. Just not unfettered, unvetted porous borders where murderers, rapists, gang members, and terrorists are welcomed in.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
As I said at the beginning…. I am for immigration - from the least to the greatest. Just not unfettered, unvetted porous borders where murderers, rapists, gang members, and terrorists are welcomed in.
The U.S. lawfully took in 1,018,004 immigrants in 2022. They apprehended over 2,000,000 sneaking in unlawfully. The estimate of people living in America illegally is 11,390,000.
 
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